by sowhatnow 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
so lets assume that the current jw use of disfellowshipping was used back in Jesus day,
who of the bible characters would find themselves disfellowshipped?
Jehovah? for commanding people to go to war, take slaves, and plunder. contrary to the commandments of not to kill.
[do as I say not as I do ,lol]
hmm, how about a sex craved Solomon? or rahab? even jesus, he had a temper, tossing over those tables.
Jehovah spoke in His own "house" with an apostate on more than one occasion - Job 1:6; 2:1;
and Jesus frequently spoke to the apostate Pharisees!! Too numerous to list. - John 3:1-21
Isn't speaking with "apostates" a disfellowshipping offence? (according to the Magnificent 7)
Well, playing along a bit here, i would have to say that df'ing the big guy isnt an option. The boss can do whatever he wants, by default, if he does it its ok for him to do it..
However i think its noteworthy to look at biblical examples of humans who would have merited df'ing (this has been before but what the heck i will start us off)....
Aaron. Built the golden calf. Should have been killed (df'd by todays standards) but wasnt. He even stayed as an appointed man.
King david. For multiple things including adultry and murder to cover the adultry. He also kept his privledges of service.
I'll leave more for the rest of the audience
I was simply highlighting the two greatest examples we should imitate!
Closer to home, our Elders are allowed to talk to any apostates, in order to try and encourage them to "repent and come back to the meetings"!
Sorry, I forgot that they are "gifts in men", and are not under the same rules as the 'obedient' riff-raff!
I've always wondered if the terms "kill" and "murder" mean the same things in the bible? Or if it is not being realistic that God is not still asking someone to kill "wicked" people, in the jw thinking, that heavenly Jesus, 144,000, and angels will do the future killing.
I always felt that God was very arbitrary in his mercy, mercy for Aaron but leprosy for Miriam, mercy for David but not for any other murderer/adulterer in his time.
I found and find if very confusing. Especially when minor children would die because of their parents' sins.
Jah should be DFed for violence and murder and disrespect for the sanctity of life. Example: the flood. Think of all the kittens and puppies and helpless baby (and adult) animals that died horrible deaths. Think of all the innocent human babies and children (and adults). That was mass murder.
blondie: I found and find if very confusing. Especially when minor children would die because of their parents' sins.
Very confusing to me, too. I never understood why all the animals were killed because of human issues. Consider the flood and the many cases of animals' being killed when Israelites conquered the cities of their enemies.
ah, God created all things, and it was all good.
and then he decided that some of those things he created were 'unclean' lol
hmm
