Tone of the current literature

by TheListener 27 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    I haven't started a thread in some time but this is something that has got me thinking. I want to know if I'm off-base here or if others have noticed this too.is.

    Over the last several months (perhaps 6-9) I feel that the tone of the WTs and KMs have been very strong. Not strong in the sense of legalistic do's and don'ts but strong in the sense of DO MORE!!!! type of stuff. I know that the society has always been a do more institution, but lately perhaps in response to the release of the lastest statistics (Feb WT) to the friends, they've been beating us extra hard. There has been a lot of talk between dubs about what the numbers could mean. Some have said perhaps it's apostasy at the top like back in the early 80's (they're unaware of the UN), others are saying that it means the end of the preaching work because all right hearted people have responded , and still others are just confused because everyone sort of expects big increases, especially as the end draws near.

    When the friends see the numbers slow and dip and perhaps in the future steadily decrease or remain stagnant, even though there are approx. 5,000 a week baptized, they get nervous. No one wants to be the last one clinging to an idea as everyone else abandons ship. I think that is why the friends talk about the numbers so much. They link statistics to armageddon. They've been conditioned to do so by mother.

    When you're in a congregation and you see new people pop up from time to time it's exciting. But, oftentimes the new people trickle away as fast as they came in. You'll go to one meeting and meet a new family that's moving into your territory. You'll see them for a little while and then "poof" they're gone. Like they never existed in the first place. This happens pretty frequently. If you look over your cong. and think about the last couple years you realize that hardly anybody is new. Perhaps just some transplants from a nearby hall, but not that many totally new dubs.

    I believe the literature is pushing the dubs more and more into feeling worthless. I was thinking over my own parts on the meetings over the years and realized that lately all my parts contain a DO MORE modern application. It seems that regardless of what a particular talk or article is about it contains DO MORE admonition as the solution. If something is wrong in your life it's your fault because you haven't DONE MORE.

    Where is the joy that used to come from being a dub? The group WT studies on Friday or Saturday night to prepare for the Sunday meeting? The gatherings of several families laughing and singing and just generally having a good time? What about congregation picnics and regular book study goody nights? It seems as if all those things are past. Remember pioneer days when huge %s of the cong. would turn out for service and many would stop for a picnic lunch or something? Now a hall is lucky if 15% show up for service on Saturday. I don't know it just feels like the joy of being a witness is gone. For many that was the only joy there was. As I look around I think, 'man everyone is completely separate from each other living their own lives and only interacting with each other at the hall or perhaps elders meetings.' No wonder everyone looks so zoned out at the meetings. Of course, there are the cliques that still get together, but they refuse to widen out so they're association is limited to a specific few, which only makes everyone else feel worse.

    Alright, I guess I covered more topics than I intended but I feel refreshed now.

  • ithinkisee
    ithinkisee

    We're having goodie night next week at the book study at our house.

    Problem is most people either resent it or just miss the meeting because no one wants to hang around longer than they have to.

    -ithinkisee

  • tijkmo
    tijkmo

    man how sad is that-ithinkisee...i would stay for your goodie night

  • XBEHERE
    XBEHERE

    Where is the joy that used to come from being a dub? The group WT studies on Friday or Saturday night to prepare for the Sunday meeting?

    I find this statement to be true in many areas. Though I think it does depend on where you are. Kind of goes along with a post I started where I asked if JW's now are different than JW's 15, 20, 30 years ago. Times have changed and not all for the good.

    When you get to the point that we are browsing "apostate websites" and posting on here then I tend to agree with Ithinkisee.... I try to go to the meeting and leave as soon as I possibly can without arrousing suspicion. Who wants to stay and talk about nonsense?!?

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    There has been a lot of talk between dubs about what the numbers could mean. Some have said perhaps it's apostasy at the top like back in the early 80's (they're unaware of the UN), others are saying that it means the end of the preaching work because all right hearted people have responded , and still others are just confused because everyone sort of expects big increases, especially as the end draws near.

    If they were brave enough to get on the internet they would find out why the numbers are going down in the WTS and increasing in mainstream Christian churches.

    Ithinkisee, I used to hate goodie night at the Book Study. Everyone was soooo nice to your face and then out in mid-week service I would hear them spreading gossip about friends in our Book Study. Well, they did it once or twice until I (Hypocrite) called them down on it right in front of the whole FS group one morning during the sales pep talk.

  • jula71
    jula71

    The tone is pretty much still the same I think. I?ve been taught my whole life, 30+, do all we can, the end is right around the corner. This same tone is still being delivered. But as we all know, since the invention of the Internet, information is more and more widespread. We all how powerful knowledge is and how detrimental it is to the WTBTS. In my area I see a lot going through the motions in fear of being DF?d.

  • iiz2cool
    iiz2cool
    Problem is most people either resent it or just miss the meeting because no one wants to hang around longer than they have to.

    I started resenting the goodie nights. Since the book study? was in my house I usually had to provide most of the refreshments. The few things people did bring were often old, stale, or just plain awful, so as to make me gag. (it takes a lot to make me gag). There was one sister? who did bring really good stuff though. And of course, there are the people who came to the BS only on goodie nights, or those from other BS groups who would crash the goodie night because they wanted some free food. These always came empty handed. Then some kid would puke on my couch or carpet, and of course, the parents would make no effort to wipe it up. Nor would they offer to replace any items their screaming brats broke.

    And, of course, most of the people there wouldn't bother talking to me anyway. The hens cackled with one another about the latest congregational gossip. The young up-and-coming brothers? spent most of their time sucking up to the elder?. I'd eventually make my way to the other room where my computers resided.

    The day I threw out the book study? was one of the happiest days of my life.

    Walter

  • theotherside
    theotherside

    2 me it boils down 2 faith will always produce works, but works dont necessarily produce strong Christian faith. They are focusing on the wrong side of the equation. Its not how much we can do 4 God, its how much he has done 4 us. Since God is Love, Christianity is all about learning how 2 love.

    They are beating people down 2 the point that they have made it hard to focus on making sure everyone feels love. Everyone is 2 busy earning salvation. Its the sad state of the organization right now. Will it change? Probably not because they keep this sense of impending doom before everyone. Its the Jws against all the wicked world. Hard 2 develope love even 4 your enemies when your constantly bombarded with that mentality

  • franklin J
    franklin J

    hey guys, 25 years ago they had the same message " brothers, the end it so close; we must continue the preaching....blah blah"

    I suppose we can say they are consistant with the Bull$&%!!, ALL THESE YEARS LATER

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    Franklin,

    I think you're right. This isn't necessarily new, I've noticed over the years that the society goes in waves with their literature and talks. For example, for several years the focus was on immorality and porneia and such; also about 7-8 years ago we given tons of information about being loving and caring and just doing our best before the end. I believe the society is very reactionary. When a problem is reported up through the hierarchy (elder to CO to DO to HDQ) it is handled by WT articles, Assy. parts, Conv. parts and KM parts. I've known dubs who have watched the tone of the literature and from that draw conclusions about what the current dub trends are.

    This might not be necessarily unique or new but it seems accurate.

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