I am looking for some one to help me understand a particular issue as a JW would see it.... If a single practicing JW was to have an affair with a married person (not a JW) knowing that they were married what would come of them or how would they feel about this being brought with a strict JW background? I am trying to understand this as I have no knowlege of this religion. Any help would be appreciated.
Please help me understand about JWs as I have no idea about this religion
by unknown 15 Replies latest jw friends
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Krystal
1 Corinthians 6:13-18 "...flee from fornication..."
If a single JW has sex with anyone... married or not married it is considered a very serious sin that could easiily lead to disfellowshipping.
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donald
ditto...thats how they see it.....donald
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inquirer
They don't like anyone who is not a JW, so doing anything with them (and particularly intercourse) that's the biggest insult to them, to use layman's words.
It's the equivalent of them saying "Get the f___ out of here, you f'n sleaze! Jehovah hates your guts now!" (In Spiritual language.) :) -
Frog
Hi unknown, there's a very strict 'no sex before marriage' rule...no fornication and no adultery. In this instance it would be irrelevant who the person was that the jw had sex with, it wouldn't necessarily be judged any worse that the other party was married, and that the jw had prior knowledge of this...You've got me curious now though, have you got your eyes on jw hottie??! froglett
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sf
They don't like anyone who is not a JW, so doing anything with them (and particularly intercourse) that's the biggest insult to them, to use layman's words.
It's the equivalent of them saying "Get the f___ out of here, you f'n sleaze! Jehovah hates your guts now!" (In Spiritual language.) :)This is hysterical! LOLOLOLOL!!! sKally
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adelmaal
Personally, I would think JW or not anyone who:
was to have an affair with a married person knowing that they were married
is going to feel guilty and not so good about it if he/she has any kind of conscience or religious convictions (even if he/she is emotionally involved in the situation). She/he is going to have issues with it.
Being a JW just adds a whole nother degree of difficulty to it all. The person will not only have feelings of sadness and guilt but also be faced with losing her/his friends and possibly family (if they are JWs) if the fact that they did this is made public to other JWs.
He/she will either hide it from others or confess it and be thrown out of the religion. Granted, being disfellowshipped all depends on whether it is one instance of sex or a continuous affair, which has not ended. It also depends on the particular group of elders (priests) this person meets with to discuss the affair.
IMHO - for him/her to get to the point of having an affair with a married person he/she is already at the point where her/his spirituality is not a major concern and possibly he/she is looking for a way out of his/her religion. In that case, he/she may cling to the person with whom she/he is having the affair or may end it once they are free of what they were trying to get away from (being a JW).
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Gerard
FACTS YOU ARE NOT TOLD BEFORE BECOMING A JW
http://home.powertech.no/festus/awaken/a-007.shtml
They believe & teachTHAT all religions except theirs are of Satan, and your Pastor or Priest is under the Devil's control.
THAT the Watch Tower Society is the only source of truth on earth today, and all churches teach error and will be destroyed at Armageddon.
THAT the cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons displaying the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus died on the cross. However, recent "new light" in the WatchTower Magazine now admits they are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway.
THAT no one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses, and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse their organization.
THAT the Christ child was only an "IT", not a "HE". See the New World Translation, Luke 2:16,17.
THAT Jesus was not the Christ (or Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, "because there was born to you today a savior, who is Christ the Lord."
THAT after Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gases and it disappeared forever.
THAT Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to "materialize" a fake body for him complete with fake nailprints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.
THAT Armageddon and Christ's second coming were foretold to happen in 1874, 1914, 1925 and 1975 by this "non-prophet" organization.
THAT when Christ failed to show up in 1914 The Society claimed in later years that He had come invisibly--of course, and all Jehovah's Witnesses believe this today.
THAT Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc. were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palacial home for them BUT when the patriarchs failed to show up, the President of the Society moved in.
THAT their light gets "brighter and brighter", allowing for many changes and "about faces" on their doctrines. Yesterday's error is today's "truth". Often the "light" bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! Does real light return to darkness?
THAT the Watch Tower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God.
THAT salvation for Society members consists of doing good works of selling Watch Tower books and magazines and winning converts.
THAT soon Jehovah God will become a GRANDFATHER and Jesus will be promoted to "EVERLASTING FATHER"!
THAT Jehovah God is not omnipresent, but still Almighty. Think! How can this be?
They have NOT been told --
By the leadership of the Society ....THAT when they translated their New World Translation of the Bible they deliberately altered almost every scripture on the deity of Christ, to make him only a creature.
THAT the Society used a translation by a SPIRIT MEDIUM, Johannes Greber, to support their rendering of John 1:1 with full knowledge that his sources were DEMONIC.
Greber was exposed in the Feb. 15/56 Watch Tower. However in 1961 they released a translation based on his occult one, then denied they knew what they were doing on page 31 of the Apr. 1, 1983 Watchtower!
THAT none of their "translating committee" knew Biblical Greek or Hebrew. No scholars at all.
That Fred Franz, who for many years headed the Society, perjured himself under oath in Scotland in a court trial, by saying he could read Hebrew, and then failing a simple Hebrew test.
THAT the following encyclopedias consider the name "JEHOVAH" to be FALSE: Merits Student Enc.; Encyclopedia Americana; The Jewish Enc.; Encyclopedia International, The Interpreters Dictionary of the Bible; The New Catholic Enc.; The Universal Jewish enc., [Encyclopaedia Britannica] etc.
J.W.'s own "Aid" book admits on pages 884 & 885 that "Jehovah" originated with a Catholic monk about 700 years ago!
THAT the date 1874 was taught for Christ's invisible presence by the Society right up till 1929. (See their book, "Prophecy", page 65).
THAT top executives of the Society have admitted under oath that they forced their members to accept false prophecies or face disfellowshipping and be found worthy of death.
DO YOU DESERVE TO KNOW THE TRUTH ?
What Jehovah's Witnesses Won't Tell You At The Doorby Gary and Lisa Ferguson (former Jehovah's Witnesses) B efore you make the decision to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses, please take a moment to consider what your decision will mean for you and your family. Your decision to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses will have a tremendous impact on the rest of your life. All of your beliefs about God and his kingdom will be dictated to you by an organization known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. If you choose to believe differently than the Society teaches, you will be guilty of "independent thinking," and will face devastating consequences.
The Real Gospel
Most importantly, you will not be taught the gospel of the bible. Your new gospel, or good news, will be that Jesus Christ returned to power in 1914 and established his heavenly kingdom. Your new gospel will involve telling people about current world problems and conditions, and how these conditions will eventually culminate with the coming of Armageddon. And finally, your new gospel will consist of telling people that the Watchtower Society is God's only mouthpiece, and that they must obey everything the Society teaches in order to survive Armageddon. However,
please know that you will be guilty of spreading the type of gospel the apostle Paul warns about in Galatians 1:8. True Christians teach the gospel found at 1 Corinthians 15:1-8, which clearly teaches the saving gospel that early Christians were proclaiming: that Christ died for our sins, that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day.Saying Good-bye
Say good-bye to your current friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. As soon as you make the decision to become a Witness, you must give up all or your relationships with those friends, and even family members, who are not Witnesses. They are considered "of the world," and unless you can persuade them to become a Jehovah's Witness, you will eventually be asked to end your association with them. Furthermore, you will be taught that everyone who does not become a Jehovah's Witness will be destroyed at Armageddon.
You and your children will never again have the joy of celebrating a birthday. But birthdays are only one of the many celebrations that you will be unable to enjoy. You will be taught that all holidays are pagan, and therefore, must be avoided. To be a
Jehovah's Witness will mean that you must give up all of those celebrations that allow you to get with your family and other loved ones. You will no longer be able to give your mother a hug and say, "Happy Mother's Day." Instead, you must tell her that all honor should go only to God, even though we are told by God to honor our mother and father (Exodus 20:12). You can no longer share in celebrating out Savior's birth, or the excitement of Christmas morning. According to the Society, celebrating Christ's birth is another pagan event and it is not to be acknowledged, despite the fact that even the angels rejoiced at Christ's birth (Luke 2:13,14). The only celebration you will recognize is "The Memorial," of Christ's death. During this memorial, which occurs only once a year, you will not be allowed to partake of the bread and wine unless you are of an elite class of 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses called the "anointed."According to the Watchtower Society, Jesus is really Michael the Archangel, and he is not your mediator unless you are one of the 144,000. You will never see Jesus, or go to be with. You will be taught that heaven
is reserved only for 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses who were born before 1935, when the Watchtower Society proclaimed that the doors of heaven had been shut. (See what Jesus says in Matthew 23:13 about those who would close heaven.)To support their doctrines, the Society will even give you their own version of the Bible, called the New World Translation. You will be told that it is the most accurate bible in the world, but please realize that many scriptures in their bible have been altered to fit their doctrine. For example, compare these verses in their bible with any other bible: John 1:1; John 17:3; Philippians 1:23; Colossians 1: 16; Hebrews 1:8, and many more. Instead of making their doctrines fit the bible, they simply altered the scriptures.
Should an emergency arise and you find yourself or someone in your family in need of a blood transfusion, you must refuse the transfusion and give up your life, if necessary. If your children need a transfusion, you must let them die without it. Countless Witnesses have perished over the past decades in anonymous deaths unseen by the media due to this practice, derived from the Society's erroneous teaching that the Bible supposedly forbids blood transfusions. You will be compelled to defend this doctrine with your life - and that of your Witness family - and view transfusions as defiling as rape, even though the New Testament Scripture used to support their claim it (Acts 15:29) makes no reference to blood transfusions at all.
School won't be a pleasant event for your child. They won't be able to salute the flag, attend school parties, or get involved in any school clubs. You will be taught that all other non-Witness children should be considered as part of the world; and therefore, you must teach your child not to associate with them since they are part of "Babylon" - and fear, rather than love, will become a major factor of their conditioning. Furthermore, you and your children will be discouraged from pursuing a college education is unnecessary since Armageddon is just around the comer. In fact, you will be discouraged from getting any type of extended education, unless it involves learning more Watchtower Society doctrine.
You will lose respect for this country. You will not salute the flag, sing the national anthem or help in time of war. Instead, you will choose
to go to prison. You will also be forbidden to vote or hold political office.Things You Will Never Be Told
that you indeed will never be told. For example, you will never know that the Watchtower Society has made many false predictions concerning when Armageddon would happen. The Society has clearly taught several dates for Armageddon - 1914, 1918, 1925, 1941, and 1975. All of these "prophecies" proved to be false. The most recent prophetic failure occurred in 1995 when the Watchtower Society was forced to back away from their prophetic teaching that "the generation that saw the events of 1914" would survive to see Armageddon (aged Witnesses from that generation have all largely died off). But how can God's mouthpiece - the Watchtower Society - make mistakes? God doesn't make mistakes. (Please read Deuteronomy 18:21-22.) You will never be told that the Society built a house in San Diego, called Beth Sarim, which was to be given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when they returned to the earth in 1925 - as the Society taught.There are several things, however,And finally, you will never be told that your decision to become a Jehovah's Witness may have devastating consequences on your family, friendships, and mental well-being. As mentioned previously, being a Witness will mean that you are only allowed to closely associate with other Witness friends and family. Should you disagree with the Society, or leave the organization, you will be "disfellowshipped." As a result, you will be cut off from all of your close relationships. Those who you once thought were your friends will suddenly turn their backs on you and will
sever their fellowship with you. You will be isolated and alone unless you " come to your senses" and come back to the organization. In other words, their is no honorable way to leave the organization once you have made the decision to become a Jehovah's Witness. You can remain a Witness and be forced to believe things you really don't believe, or you can leave the organization and lose many of your closest relationships and loved ones.Make The Right Decision
Please carefully consider whether you really want to become a Jehovah's Witness. If you think that following the teachings of the Watchtower Society will improve your relationship with God, please consider what the apostle Peter said to Jesus in John 6:68, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life." Peter did not say that the Watchtower Society had the words of life. He said only Jesus has the words of life.
T'he apostle Paul said "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved" (Romans 10:9). Jehovah's Witnesses will tell you that your salvation depends upon taking in knowledge. But the Bible says your salvation depends upon your willingness to come to Jesus (John 5:39, 40; John 6:45; Acts 4:12; and I John 5:1 1, 12).
Please make the right decision, come to Jesus for your salvation, not to the Watchtower Society.
http://www.spiritwatch.org/whajwwon.htm
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Purza
Unknown,
According to the dubs, sex outside of marriage is wrong. No way around it.
Just out of curiosity, why do you ask?
Purza
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Doubtfully Yours
Do you think a devout JW would really have a romantic affair with a married individual?!
Gi'me a break! You must be kidding, right???
How about you go to www.watchtower.org and find where there is it encouraging for a real JW, not one in name only like so many inside giving the religion a terrible reputation, to have romantic affairs with other married people. When you find it there, please point it out to me.
DY
There are several things, however,