Are there good and bad wiccans or witches?
Yep
by kls 50 Replies latest jw experiences
Are there good and bad wiccans or witches?
Yep
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If there is a Borders, Barnes & Noble, Waldenbooks, or Books-A-Million in your area, check out their section on Metaphysical Studies (sometimes labeled New Age). Lots of good titles are available which can answer all your questions, including "Drawing Down the Moon" by Margot Alder, "The Spiral Dance" by Starhawk, almost anything by Scott Cunningham (especially Wicca-a Guide for the Solitary Practitioner), and anything by Vivianne Crowley. Wicca is often called "The Old Path" referring to nature-centered beliefs which were practised long before the rise of Christianity. Modern wicca is not exactly an exact reconstruction of old practices as much as an effort to create a modern nature-centered belief system which does honor its ancient roots. However, as some have pointed out already, there are some people who claim they are wiccans, witches, pagans, etc, because they think this makes them appear somehow "spooky" (hence interesting?). Most wiccans, pagans, etc, don't wear much in the way of special clothing to distinguish themselves from others. Some may wear a ring or necklace, others not.
Bless everyone on this board for trying as best as they can to describe this. I try not to openly broadcast it, but I am a 4th generation Astrau Pagan who learned everything from my mom, who learned from her mom.. etc. (The reason I'm here is my dad is a JW and he was trying to induct me. Plus Lilbit said it was a good idea to join. Lilbit even asked me to throw in my two cents on this post.)
Anyhow, the "White Witch" is completely "touched". As a practicioner myself, I would never have contact with a person who automatically labled themselves "white" because magic is both light and dark and it is impossible to practice magic and be 100% "white". This is the first sign that the "witch" you are dealing with only has half of the facts. You can't follow the "An if it harm none" rule to a tee and still cast a spell. If you cast a prosperity spell, that money comes from somewhere so youre technically taking it from one person to give to another. If you do healing, you are asking to kill the infliction, which, if its a virus, bacteria or other single celled living organism, is technically praying for the demise of the virus or bacteria. But most witches are not out to purposely hurt you. We're normal people who just have a different belief system than mainstream society.
Think of it this way. Those witches you see wandering around with their magical crystals in hand, laying them out tenderly in a certain way when playing Bingo.. the ones sitting at the mall shuffling a deck of tarot cards while wearing a veil.. The one in all black with big huge pentacles covering their arms and fingers... these are all versions of the same fluff bunny "witch" who TENDS to call him/herself a "white witch". You can email me for more info, but your best advice is to shrug her off as the town nut job.
Katlin
To answer this question..
You have to look at spells like prayer. Its a much more ceremonial prayer but - for the most part - it is still similar to a prayer. We dont actually levitate things (Though I have seen it done) and we dont shoot balls of flames at people. Charmed is completely wrong. Harry Potter is closer to right, but still off in left field. Even worse are the bad witches like on The Wizard of Oz - the ones who eat children.
As for being a "good" versus a "bad" witch, it depends on your own personal perception. There are those who go out casting nothing but the negative stuff, but they tend to do it for personal gain so they believe it is good yet the rest of the world would see it as bad. Do they exist? Well yes they do. But they're hard to miss because they're normally very egotistical, appear to have a few screws loose, and almost sociopathic. To be a witch like that, you kind of have to be.
Telepathy.. no. We can't Literally read your mind. Not in the way YOU are thinking, anyway. The thought is a very private thing and God likes to keep it that way. Reading auras, energy.. thats a whole different story. Have you ever known someone so deeply that you can tell what mood they are in just by which eyebrow is higher? That's the telepathic powers in a very infantile form. The psychic powers are powers everyone is ABLE to have (but most have been raised to surpress their individual gift normally via a parent who says "Oh stop it. Youre making it all up.") but if a person broadcasts their certain gift and uses it for monetary gain, they are almost certain of losing this gift. I've seen it happen time and time again.
Like I said, You can email me anytime about any questions you may have. I enjoy answering questions.
Katlin
Welcome MrsElmo253,and thank you for that great insight. When i heard of this so called White Witch acting in a way as not the norm i knew she is either acting or left her marbles at home. I have great respect in wiccans and this so called Witch gives them a bad light.
Hi every one!
Found this on the net, thought it might help.
Are you a "White Witch"? Some Witches like to explain that they practice only "white" magick. This is probably their way of assuring you that they don't cast "evil spells" or try to manipulate you through their magickal talents. The term white witch was much more prevalent in the early 1990's, possibly as a need to be more politically correct or to counter the prejudices of those who would do them harm before New Age ideas became more popular. Some African-American and Native American Witches take offense to being called white Witches as the term implies race to them.
Magick really isn't black or white. It just is. The idea of black or white is to differentiate between the intentions. White being good, according to the theory, and black being malicious.
One popular Wiccan author refuses to consider her work to be black magick but does practice "Dark" magick. "Dark isn't the same as evil," she says. Dark can relate to any type of protection or defensive spell, and this particular woman is very strong in her protection rituals. She would never cast a healing spell without the permission of the patient or perform any ritual that would bring ill will to another human being.
Think of Kestrel Firehawk in Flying By Night when she invokes Hecate, the Dark Mother, to protect her family and get her through this terrible crossroads in her life.
Most Pagans believe in karma, reincarnation, and/or some form of cause and effect. You may have encountered the same beliefs among Buddhists. You get back what you send out. What goes around, comes around. Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.
It's as simple as this: if the guy who sold you your car cheated you by rolling back the odometer, he'll get that same energy back. Maybe he'll be cheated tomorrow. Or maybe his disgruntled customers will talk to all their friends, and soon no one will buy a car from him and he'll go bankrupt. Maybe he'll never be able to hang onto any financial gain. Or maybe he'll spend his next lifetime in jail as a car thief.
Wiccans subscribe to a set of rules known as the Wiccan Rede, which says to do what you will but harm none. Some Wiccans try to take the Rede very literally, trying not to hurt any living thing, including insects. Most Wiccans fall somewhere toward the middle of the interpretation: don't perform magick to hurt another person or attempt to alter their destinies (including healing spells) without their permission.
Still other Wiccans perceive "harm none" as a call to protection and justice and believe that practicing magick responsibly includes doing what you can to make sure no one is hurt. For example, if you don't practice magick to protect or defend and you have those abilities to work with the elements and Deity that most people don't have, then you are in fact doing harm, the same as if you had caused the harm directly. Following through with this call to defense might include performing magick to locate a serial rapist and bring him to justice or to reveal the identity of a terrorist so your community will be protected.
The differing interpretations have been the source of heated discussions in Pagan communities around the world. Do you let Karma take care of murderers for you? Or do you cast a spell so that the murderer will be found and brought to justice? Each Pagan has his or her own convictions in this matter, just as people of all religions do.
Do Witches ever do harm intentionally, other than bringing criminals to justice, if that's perceived by some as harm? Yes, some do--just as people of all religions occasionally do bad or unethical things.
Occasionally, you hear of a Pagan High Priest (whether real or supposed) who wants to make sex with teenage girls part of the initiation into his coven. We don't know. We've yet to meet him. However, we do personally know Baptist clergy who were arrested for molesting little boys in their churches and Catholic priests who were charged with having kiddie porn on their computers. That certainly doesn't mean that all preachers and priests should be tossed in jail or burned at the stake.
Doing harm doesn?t have to be a major criminal activity. It can be little things that leave the victim with a distaste for a particular religion if we aren't careful. Haven't we all dealt with the office Power-Ranger or gossipy neighbor who could be unbelievably dastardly behind our backs and yet first in line to let everyone know they sing in the church choir, lead prayer circles, or teach Sunday School? Haven't you ever wanted to call their pastor or religious leader and tell them to ask this person NOT to tell anyone about their religion because they're such bad examples? And especially not to advertise their religion alongside their profession if they can't be counted on to act ethically?
There are good and bad people of all faiths. We should all strive to be the best possible representative of the Deity (or Deities) we follow, because--like it or not--we are Their representative.
Lorna Tedder is a Third Degree High Priestess trained by the Black Forest Clan, holds a Ph.D. in metaphysics, and is a best-selling author of both mundane and spiritual books. More of her free articles, tips, and photos are available at http://www.spilledcandy.com and http://www.lornatedder.com.
Kind Regards
Acadian
Acadian ,thanks so much
Your very welcome!
I was going to become a white witch before I got mixed up with the dubs in my teen years. They are "good" witches, they only do good spells, love, healh, prosperity, wealth type of. They wear white (no brainer!), they are much like Glenda the good witch in the Wiz of Oz. I did not get real deep into it, I started to join a coven...but the good ole dubs turned me from that path....sorry I don't know more...