FINAL PEDOPHIILE POLL RESULTS

by Amazing 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    FINAL PEDOPHILE POLL RESULTS

    Important note: There is no means at this time to truly ascertain the total number of pedophiles in the USA or in any specific group, such as the JWs. Estimates and extrapolations are about the best anyone can do in an attempt to get a handle on the potential scope of the problem. The Poll results below will provide minimums, maximums, and possible averages given the raw data I have had to work with, and the averages provided by various study groups:

    TOTALS:
    Number of responses to Poll: 21
    Number of congregations: 64
    Number of Molesters: 89
    Number of known Victims: 433

    ACTUAL DATA AVERAGES:
    Molesters per Congregation: 1.39
    Victims per Congregation: 6.77
    Victims per Molester: 4.87
    Average number of Congregations per respondent: 3

    EXTRAPOLATIONS for USA / 3 AVERAGE CONGREGATIONS:
    Molesters: of 11,500 USA Congregations x 1.39: = (15,985 / 3) = 5,328
    % of total JW Molesters per 990,000 JWs in USA: = 0.0538%
    Victims: 5,328 Molesters x 4.87 KNOWN Victims: = 25,947
    Victims: 5,328 Molesters x 70 Total* Victims: = 372,960
    Victims: 5,328 Molesters x 150 Total* Victims: = 799,200
    Victims: 5,328 Molesters x 300+ Total* Victims: = 1,598,400

    *Note: There are three different estimates based on different studies. One study used by the Attorney I have been working with, who prosecutes such cases, shows that the average is 300+ Victims / Molester. The Klass Kids Foundation / Poly Klass Foundation (This was founded because of the murder and rape of Poly Klass) shows an average number of 150 Victims / Molester. SilentLambs site uses another study that shows and average of 70 Victims / Molester.

    The reason that these averages vary depends on how the study is conducted and the assumptions made. Here are the possible explanations:

    1. Some studies resulted in more Situational Molesters. These are mostly molesters who have only 2 or 3 incidents in their life based on ‘situations’ that, if they did not happen, there is a chance they would never have engaged in the act.

    2. Most studies deal with Preferential Molesters who make a “career” of molesting children of families and friends that they know, and will also pick up stranger children and engage them, but they are far less inclined to use force or violence. The averages in these studies depend largely on whether other types of molesters are factored in. Most studies agree that the Preferential molester accounts for about 90% of all known molesters, and the average number of victims range between 70 and 150.

    3. Some studies deal with Predator Molesters who abduct children by force then rape, torture, mutilate and often murder their victims. These Molesters will have hundreds of victims before they are caught. The highest average I have seen in print is 281, and this correlates somewhat with the Attorney data of 300+. My initial use of his numbers was intended to get to the maximum scope of the problem.

    GOOD WEB SITES TO REVIEW:

    Pedophiles and Child Molesters: The Slaughter of Innocence by Mark Gado:
    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial/pedophiles/

    Stop Abuse is a site to do research and find or add other Links:
    http://www.stopabuse.org/

    Religions against Pedophiles is developing a nationwide database to catalogue and identify child sex offenders:
    http://www.raped.org/

    GOAL OF ex-JW EFFORTS: SilentLambs, many others and myself are not out to “get” the Watch Tower Organization. We do not “hate” JWs, unlike the way that the Watchtower magazine exhorted the JWs to “hate” ex-JWs and label them ‘Apostates.’ We are not out to cause trouble for JWs, or interfere with their main message of a Paradise Earth as their hope for eternity.

    We do seek to expose the problem, identify what are known to be the core issues making Pedophiles a serious problem among Jehovah’s Witnesses. We seek, if necessary, to FORCE the Watch Tower Society to change its policies in dealing with JW Pedophiles. We do this so as to protect JW and non-JW children who have been or will be Victims. If this exposure and effort leads to consequential activities that results in the Watch Tower religion being further exposed for other problems, such as its Blood and Shunning Policies, its False Prophecies, and its Misleading the JWs, then so be it. If this leads to their religion being reduced in ranks and possibly fading away, then so be it ... BUT ... that is not the goal or focus of the effort.

    Why just target the JW religion in our efforts if our concern is for both JW and non-JW children? Because that is where our information, experiences, observations, testimony, and documentation are focused. We have far more capability to achieve effective results with the JW organization than other target groups. What may be learned with this project can be shared with other groups so that they have some idea as to how to go about effecting change within their systems. And what other groups share with us will help in the success of this project.

    The goal is not to imply that JW men are ‘all’ a bunch of molesters, but rather to focus on the fact that molesters do exist in their organization and ‘are’ protected by Watch Tower Society policy, which is largely meant to protect the Watch Tower Society’s marketing image. As a result of their motive to look good in the eye of themselves and the rest of the world, countless numbers of children have been needlessly victimized ... a victimization that would never have happened if the Watch Tower Society were to have caught up to the Roman Catholic Church, or the Boy Scouts, or Day Care Centers, or Public Schools, and properly taken care of the problem. IF we can succeed in simply getting the Watch Tower Society to effect good policy, then it will all have been worth the time and effort. - Amazing

  • Pork Chop
    Pork Chop

    Nice work Amazing. That looks more reasonable.

  • BoozeRunner
    BoozeRunner

    AMAZING...nice work.

    Many of the WTS policies affect people in disturbing ways, but one such as their dealings with pedophiles cuts right thru the heart because the victims are innocent children.

    Getting them to change their policy concerning pedophiles is clearly an urgent one.

    Keep up the goog work:-)
    Boozy

  • logical
    logical

    Its sad those results are like they are, shouldnt God's organisation read the following?

    ACTUAL DATA AVERAGES:
    Molesters per Congregation: 0
    Victims per Congregation: 0
    Victims per Molester: 0
    Average number of Congregations: ALL

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Logical: You make a good point. The numbers, ideally, should be all 'zeros' ... and unfortunately, all too many JWs have no grasp of the scope of the problem. This is mostly because the Watch Tower Society never gives any specifics, but always phrases reports in fuzzy terms, such as: 'Some' or 'it is reported' or 'there have been those who' type of statements ... but never really saying anything.

    Years ago the Society would publish the numbers DF'd each year. But they only did this once in a while, and never gave any specific breakdown other than to say, 'the vast majority were for sexual offenses'. So, this could mean anything from adultery, fornication, molestation, incest, beastiality, excessive masturbation, homoseluality, or viewing pornography. - Amazing

  • sf
    sf

    Nice work indeed. And very much appreciated! I shall be pasting these stats in yahoo messenger rooms.

    Thank you for your time, energy and active efforts in establishing these STAGGERING figures.

    Sincerely, sKally, knows the numbers increase DAILY klass

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi SF: Thanks. I beliebe that based on the two Polls the numbers are valid, and likely representative of reality, though as I noted in my post, that cannot be proven. I believe that the number of victims of JW molesters likely runs somewhere about the 372,000 mark as shown in the above. Not all victims are necessarily JW children, but that has little real bearing on this issue. Thanks again. - Amazing

  • GodRules
    GodRules

    logical and amazing: You two are totally off. What do you mean by "the number should be zero"? Are we still in this imperfect system of things? The number will be zero in a perfect environment when Kingdom of God is ruling the Earth. Meanwhile, the witnesses must deal with some perverts, that is to disfellowship them. What else can they do now? Jehovah will take care of it from there, you impatient fools!

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Wrong GodRules,

    They are not fools. They are total asses.

  • troucul
    troucul

    you gotta be shittin' me gr and fred...your ignorance astounds me....all i can do is laugh in disbelief...

    je pense, donc, je suis

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