I'm not a jehovahs witness nor a believer in the christian faith but i heard that jehovahs witness's believe that only 144 000 people go to heaven. is this true?
Heaven?
by th 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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jgnat
Yes. They take it when Jesus talked about his "little flock" he meant it literally. Plus that bit in Revelation.
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jt stumbler
Absolutely. 144k of Jehovahs witnesses go to heaven. The remainder of Jehovahs witnesses get to stay on earth for everrrrrr
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Sith
A world full of JWs. Won't THAT be a blast. PARTY!!!!
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love11
Yes. Apparently they are supposed to come out of the 12 tribes of Israel. Yet, those people in the watchtower org. who claim to be of the 144,000, most are not jewish. I don't know how they explain that one. It's funny that the number of people that claim this always goes up and down. I believe it's around 8,000 left, so they claim. Maybe someone else could do a better job at explaining this one.
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gold_morning
More important than what the JW's teach about heaven is what the bible says about heaven. Consider these scriptures. They were the first ones
that got me thinking.
1John 5:12 says:
"He who HAS the son Has life."
Notice the PRESENT tense here. It does not say that he
who has the son will have life, someday in the future like at a future resurrection. You know as a witness they teach that when you die,
you are dead. You are conscience of nothing at
all. You turn to dust. They say you are in God's memory to be
resurrected someday in the future. Yet, it says here..... we have
this gift of life NOW as long as we have the Son. We
(HAVE) LIFE.
John 5:24,25 says:
"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and
believes him who sent me HAS eternal life and WILL NOT
BE CONDEMNED. He has passed over from death to life. I
tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come
when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God
and those who hear WILL live."
Prior to Jesus coming the dead could not go to
heaven and be with God because they were sinners and
imperfect. A debt had to be paid. The debt was death.
Jesus paid the debt for us. He did the punishment that we
should have paid. When he died, he said.."It is
finished." The sentence was death and he paid it for us. Now we do not die....if we believe in Him. We now became righteous before God because of him.
Nothing we can do will make us righteous. No amount of
good deeds or works. Jesus did it. WE just need to
really believe in Him. That is why the above scripture
says if we believe in Him we have eternal life and
will not be condemned (which was death). When we
believe in him we cross over from death to life. We no
longer have to pay that penalty. When Jesus says a time is coming and it is now when
the dead would hear his voice and live he wasn't
kidding. He had arrived to pay our price and he bought
us. He bought Jew and gentile alike. The dead were
now able to live in heaven and those after him are now
allowed to go to heaven because we are now righteous
thru the blood of Jesus. He bought us....we now are
owned by him. We are now protected by Him. It was a
gift as I will show you later.
Remember, He came not to condemn the world, but to
SAVE THE WORLD. Save us from what? It was to save us from death!! He was successful. If we really still die when we pass on, then his death was in vain. He really
did not save us from death if we still continue to
die. That is why 1Corinthians 15:13 says: " If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ
has been raised. Then our preaching is in vain."
John 8:51:
"I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he
will NEVER SEE DEATH AT ALL"
NEVER means NEVER. He did not say maybe you won't
see death....or you will see death until I resurrect
you later. He said you will NEVER see death.
John 11:25 says:
"Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the
life. He who believes in me WILL LIVE, even though he
dies, and whoever lives and believes in me will NEVER
DIE."
Hence, we WILL LIVE and we WILL NEVER DIE.
It is evident the apostles felt the same way.
Paul's says in 2Corinthians 5:8: "We are confident. I say, and would prefer to be AWAY
from the body and at home with the Lord.
Philippians 1:23 says:
"I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be
with Christ, which is better by far. But it is more
necessary for you that I remain in the body."
This brings up the topic of spirit, soul and body. See
how he wants to give up the body and be home with
Jesus? The body is just needed to live here on earth
It is not needed in heaven. But the spirit resides in
the body!! The spirit lives on. The spirit is the
real you.
Acts 7:59 tells us Stephen is being stoned to
death. It says...
"While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, "Lord
Jesus, receive my spirit."
How about Matthew 10:28 scripture that says
to fear those that can kill the body.... but NOT KILL
THE SOUL!!!!
1Thessalonians 5:23..
"May your WHOLE SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY be kept
blameless."
Ephesians 2:4
"Because of His great LOVE for us, God, who is rich in
mercy, made us ALIVE WITH CHRIST even when we were
dead in our transgressions... it is by GRACE YOU HAVE
BEEN SAVED."
The organization had books called
reasoning with the scriptures, but only reasoned their
way.
Isn't it funny we preached in the door to door work
challenging people to examine their religions to see
if it was the truth, but we were not allowed to
examine our own!!! If we did we were labeled
apostates!!... and disfellowshiped!!
Remember, you are loved by God very much.
What he did and offered us was for you too. You are
worthy of this gift. Don't give up. Keep questioning and then question somemore. Gold -
mormon 4 life
totaly disagree with that doctrine it is by being baptised (John chapter 3 vres 5+7)to enter the kingdom of god and beliving that jesus is the christ and that he Atoned for your sin's
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mormon 4 life
Q.What are we to understand by sealing the one hundred and forty-four thousand out of all the tribes of israel--twelve thousand out of every tribe?
A.we are to understand that those who are seald are high priests ordained unto the holy order of God to administer the everlasting gospel;for they are they who are ordained out of every nation,kindred,tongue,and people by the angels to whom is given power over the nations of the earth to bring as many as will come to the church of the Fristborn.
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Evanescence
All Christians are children of God and will spend eternity with Christ: The Jehovah?s
Witness teach that only 144,000 people are considered sons and daughters of God. The
144,000 have the hope of going to heaven to be glorified with Jesus for eternity. The rest of
the Jehovah?s Witnesses are not sons and daughters of God but merely friends of God who
have the hope of living forever in paradise on earth. This is clearly contrary to scripture. (See
Romans 8:14-17)