How to implode your local congregation

by Check_Your_Premises 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • M.J.
    M.J.

    Here's a something rough, and maybe not be the right type of info for something like this, but I'll throw it out there:

    How has today's Good News of the Kingdom come about?

    Charles Russell taught early on that the "little flock" spoken of in the Bible meant true believers who were the bride of Christ. They'd be transferred to heaven at the end of the "gentile times" in 1914, when all the earth's rulers are overthrown (p 101 ), clearing the way for God?s kingdom. Mankind on earth would not be destroyed, but serve in a 1000 year "probation" period with a goal of becoming perfect humans like Adam in the garden. Together with Christ, the "little flock" would be earth's divine new rulers, becoming "redeemer" and "spirtual mother" for all generations of mankind. They'd be able to appear on earth as invisible spirits or by materializing into physical bodies. Russell got the details on this from a man named Nelson Barbour, who described this very plan in his books and magazines. Barbour had come from a big movement led by Baptist preacher William Miller , who calculated through passages in Daniel and Revelation that 1843 (later 1844) was the year of Christ's return. After his prediction failed, Miller admitted he was wrong about the whole date-setting thing and called it quits. Some of his followers, however, insisted that something invisible really did happen on that year. Many others including Barbour came up with countless new end-date predictions along with new ideas and explanations on the ultimate fate of mankind. Barbour identified 1874 as the year of Christ's return by "correcting" Miller?s calculations and publicized the big news in his magazine . After 1874 passed with nothing happening, rather than admit failure Barbour started to claim that he was right after all, that Christ actually had returned, except that it was an "invisible presence" and no one could see him. His magazine nearly went broke because hardly any of his subscribers bought this story. But one reader--a young and wealthy CT Russell--was so impressed with these ideas that he became Barbour's partner in the magazine operation. Russell adopted all of Barbour?s chronology (1914, 1874, 1799 , etc.) along with his specific views on the coming kingdom. After Russell and Barbour broke things off, Russell started molding these ideas in his own new "Watch Tower" publications. He started linking the "little flock" with the 144,000 that was mentioned in Revelation. According to his new understanding, Russell's own followers were the last surviving portion of the 144,000, and the full number was chosen in 1881. He determined that 1878 was the year when all the dead members of this group (going back to the apostles) were invisibly resurrected into heaven. As for the kingdom, he wrote that the 144,000 in heaven wouldn't ever have to come down to earth after all, because in 1914 Old Testament "ancient worthies" like Abraham, Issac and Jacob were going to be resurrected to earth as perfect humans. They'd be put in charge of mankind (p. 619, 625) and have the ability to receive orders directly from the 144,000, kinda like how perfect Adam communicated with Jehovah in the garden. Since Russell's death certain details on all this have been revised:

    • 1918, rather than 1878, is now the year that the dead members of the 144,000 were resurrected to heaven.
    • 1935, rather than 1881, is now the year that the full number of the 144,000 was chosen.
    • Some of the 144,000 will remain on earth for a while to set up the Kingdom, rather than the "ancient worthies" (Abraham, Isaac, etc.). A big WT campaign had promoted the idea that these "ancient worthies" would be resurrected to perform such a duty in 1925, and a mansion was later built for them in San Diego, but this understanding was eventually changed.
    • Once the Great Crowd was identified, a harsher view of Armageddon was implemented. Not only will Church and Government institutions be destroyed, but no living person outside of the organization could really expect to be spared from destruction--not even their kids (Riches, Rutherford, 1936, p. 98)...Many past generations will still be resurrected, though. In contrast, Russell had taught that just about everyone would live to get a chance at redemption in the new system.
    • 1914, rather than 1874, is now the year that Christ returned invisibly. 1914 is also the start of the last days, rather than 1799. One calculation in support of 1874 (as the start of the millenium) was that 6,000 years of human history ended in 1873. This has been changed to 1975.
    • The end of the "Gentile Times" in 1914 now marks the beginning of the end of the present system, rather than the actual end of the present system as originally promoted by Barbour/Russell.
    • The 144,000 became the "Faithful Discreet Slave class" who are officially represented by an organization. The "spiritual mother" became the organization itself. In contrast, Russell had taught that there would be no organization set up to redeem mankind until God fully sets up his kingdom, when the 144,000 leaders are in heaven.
  • TheListener
    TheListener

    MJ, I like your narrative. However, it is really historically based. I don't think most dubs can understand much of their history. It may turn them off before they complete reading it. I am going to reread the WTS tracts on certain subjects. I think using their writing style would help sell this to the dub audience.

    Also, I asked Simon for space behind closed doors to review, edit and massage the text of the ApostaTract. I am no copyrighting the term ApostaTract. I want life's waters to be free to all. :)

  • OldSoul
    OldSoul

    Maybe an approach that builds on a "Did you mean to ..." with topics like, Did you mean to let an organization become your mediator with God?

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    a house divided against itself will not stand - personally, i don't think the collapse needs any help from outsiders, or should i say additional help. the internet has flattened the playing field for the world, and the "truth" is on the loose - not hiding under a basket or in a magazine or at a meeting or in a new york building.

    trudy

    Trudy -

    I agree in principle. I do think though that some times arise in which a concise message would really help.

    Recently I had a neice DF'd and wanted to help her not to go back - I gave her a copy of COC but that is a lot to absorb for some that don't know if they want to return or not.

    Jeff

  • Check_Your_Premises
    Check_Your_Premises

    I ran across this site one time. This is a witness to witnesses ministry. I haven't vetted the site or org, but they do sell pamphlets and tracts to be distributed to dubs. Not sure how good they are.

    http://www.witnessinc.com/index.html

  • Check_Your_Premises
    Check_Your_Premises

    I think brci.org would be the group to get involved in notifying the recently df'd

    They are conscientious Christians who could not remain in the org. They help the recently df'd. They keep a low profile, so they might not be interested in our little ideas.

    Anyone attempting to kill the org through contact of the recently df'd should talk to these guys first in my opinion.

  • steve2
    steve2

    JWs think about the implications of leaving for all sorts of reasons, so I don't think a tract would work. Some begin to get disilusioned because of doctrinal doubts, or policy doubts (e.g., hardline on blood), or the JW home environment, or sexual abuse, or interpersonal conlfict with others in the congregation. There would be huge variability in where poeple aret "at" when they actually leave. I don't think a tract could possibly cover all of these possibilities. For example, a major turn-off for me when I left was pamphlets "exposing" JW doctrines and failed predictions. But I would never suggest those sorts of tracts would be wonderfully appropriate for others who have left.

  • Rabbit
    Rabbit

    I like the suggestion about using the "WT writing style" for instance, since I am fading, but, not DF/DA what I hear most from JW relatives is,"Have you been stumbled by someone in the KH?"

    I think that would be a good lead-in title for 'specific subject tract'. I think the majority of people who leave, like me, leave disgusted at the hypocrisy and lack of 'true' love among JW's. For me most of the doctrines, except blood & shunning, were not the big deal, although for many it is the reason they left. The MAJOR reasons why JW's leave need to be identified, then tracts could be designed to address those concerns.

    Rabbit

  • integ
    integ

    The idea of a billboard next to every kingdom hall in the country..(or as close to a billboard as you can get, maybe just a big sign) in a concentrated, precisely timed fashion. A blitz, showing the JWD web address. They would freak out in Brooklyn bethel.

    This all hinges on good intel

    it's spelled integ. And I hope nothing hinges on me...

    Integ.

  • integ
    integ

    ...by the way, I'll go along with whatever you guys decide.

    Integ.

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