Mankind came from one society which spread out? (page 2)

doofdaddy

Nah jw83. It's excepted now

Can't refute genes.

Ditto with indigenous Aussies

Sirona

Very interesting, Abaddon. Thanks for the link. I did feel that it was most likely that there is serious evidence that he is wrong in most of it.

The reference to the flood was not that he suggested that there WAS a flood, just that there are flood myths the world over and if not a flood a "global catastrophe" myth, wherein human-Gods were destroyed. That was the part which agreed with JWs.

Also to suggest that an advanced society spread out across the globe supports JW ideas about Nimrod and the story of human beings scattering the earth. Those of you who have suggested we are descendents from Africa, are you saying that we were able to build boats and travel across the globe xxxzillion years ago?

Sirona

LouBelle

As I live in Africa (south africa) I kinda feel at home on this. I know this is not what the original thread was about but some interesting facts on what we call The Cradle of Humankind. It's in the north western corner of Gauteng (pronounced with a gutteral ggggowteng). It covers about 47 000 hectares and has a complex of fossil-bearing caves containing a superbly preserved record of the stages in the evolution of humankind. There have been huge scientific discovers,providing major breakthroughs in the search for the origins of humankind, such as the world's most famous pre-human skull known as Mrs Ples - this dated 2.8 million years old and Little Foot, an alomost complete human sceleton dated 4,17 million years, plus many other finds.

I believe that mankind has existed for longer than the teaching of 6000 years - I reckon that the whole "Adam & eve" story is a parabel, and does not literally mean one man & one woman, there is a more spiritual/deeper meaning.

my 1 1/2 cents

badboy

I have heard from a jw that when the Spianards went to Mexico that the Spaniards saw that the religion practised by the Aztec/Mayans was similiar to what was practised in Babylonia.

Cortez Autobiography(or whatever) mentioned these similiaries,also these similiaries to Christianity.

badboy

This all proves that we all came from Babylonia!

NIMROD AND ALL!

doofdaddy

Yeah then Cortez slaughtered them. The jw would enjoy that part.

doofdaddy

Oh

and Sirona did you actually read what I posted? There is no flood account in Cambodia. There were no gods destroyed, they were the creators in the account I wrote

The flood is not a myth that is accepted across the ancient world

Sirona

Doofdaddy,

Oh ok thanks.

Really I don't feel anyone has answered my question about the claim that ancient advanced civilisations all had similarities and it was suspected that the knowledge they had had spread from one source. Is there any merit in that assertion?

Sirona

Abaddon

There are unanswered questions about the interconnectedness of ancient civilisations.

One is 'how in the name of flying Frig did cocaine end up in the tissues of Egyptian mummies?'

Cocaine is a New World plant...

However, although (barring repeated weirdo unlikely contamination) we know there MUST have been trade, we're buggered if we can do anything other than speculate massively about who, what and why.

Another example is silk from China, made into royal robes of (then) incalculable cost with gold trimming in Persia, ended up in the grave pit of a Bronze-age Briton princess... we know it happened. How who what when are an undiscovered country.

Whether the flow was one way, two way, incidental, deliberate, o9ccasional, one-off, convergent, divergent... well, I don't think anyone can answer all of those questions.

What one has to do is imagine pre-history as Swiss cheese. One should try to avoid connectiing the HOLES (things we know are not possible), as Hancock has a tendancy to. Connecting the bits of CHEESE to each other is very very hard at this remove, and we may never have enough evidence to be conclusive.

Sometimes 'obvious' stuff that have been used to claim ancestry (Mesoamerican step-pyramids and Egyptian pyramids, Thor Hyerdal and his reed boat), and subsequently genetics has shown it's not so.

No simple answers, therefore.

I personally think it is likely that civilisations developing from population groups after the last Glacial Maximum came into contact with each other, and that many similarities are due to parrallel development or traders/travellers tales, but not as a result of the GREAT MOTHER CIVILISATION OF OGGLAND spreading around the world. There is rather less evidence contradicting this than the opposite view.

Abaddon

Now, this is interesting attempt at joining cheese;

http://www.askwhy.co.uk/analogiesandconjectures/Americaphoen01.html

Mankind came from one society which spread out?

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