Miss Universe pageant -- I think I'm in love! =) (page 3)

Elsewhere

I'm impressed, Else. You picked a girl who doesn't have big boobs.

I don't think I could survive knowing Leva Kokorevica... I'm afraid I would forget to breath everytime I was around her.

FlyingHighNow

I don't think I could survive knowing Leva Kokorevica... I'm afraid I would forget to breath everytime I was around her.

She's very pretty. Don't you wonder if her personality matches her looks? She seems very youthful and sweet. There is almost an innocence about her.

Firstly, the image I linked to changed; obviously their webmaster noticed me linking their images, and now I can't edit the link. I had carefully chosen one that had no nipples etc. to avoid people getting over excited.

I think you missed my point.

Beauty pageants are bowdlerised porn.

Rather than admitting it is parading young women so points can be awarded on the basis of their sexual attractiveness, it pretends it is more 'respectable', and maybe even adds in other tests not associated with sexual attractiveness to distract people from the central fact it is a tits and ass show.

If you think just because you can't see any nipples means it isn't a tits and ass show, I disagree. Like guys watch stuff like that to see what unusual musical instruments they can play, or to look at the designs of the dresses.

Thus porn (which is quite blatant in being about sex) is more honest than beauty pageants which try to pretend they aren't about sex.

Now as regards your other comments;

Yeah, those porn examples you give there are very honest: grown women don't have pubic hair. Women look just like little girls down there. Right.

So the fact that one can see the genitalia clearly (lots of guys like this, you don't have to), and that sensations associated with sexual play are enhanced if you shave have nothing to do with guys liking it, it's because they like looking at little girls? Thanks for the benefit of your wisdom.

Now given that most women don't consume porn, we have to look at those that do.

They don't look at pictures of average looking blokes. In fact, the most frequent complaint by female porn consumers is the low quality of men in porn!

If women like the naked men they look at to be attractive to them, why is it wrong for a guy to be the same?

People who can't hold a tune are rarely singers as they are not nice to listen to. Is it any surprise there is not much of a market for people who are not nice to look at in porn?

The fact you object to what many men find attractive is as relevant as a man objecting to women who like porn not liking flabby old guys with hairy backs and a penis so small you can't see it for the pubes. It's you right to feel that way, but it is scarcely pertinent.

She's very pretty. Don't you wonder if her personality matches her looks? She seems very youthful and sweet. There is almost an innocence about her.

If I said

"She's very plain. Don't you wonder if her personality matches her looks? She seems very aged and sour. There is almost an air of depravity about her"

... I would be crucified, and rightly so. Why's the reverse okay?

LittleToe

Gyles:

... I would be crucified, and rightly so.

Nawww - you'd probably enjoy it

Abaddon

Now now Ross. Crucifier is to crucifiee as sadist is to mascohist. But nails are a bit too kinky for me, whether I'm on the pointy end or not...

LittleToe

Which reminds me of the joke:

A Masochist says to a sadist "Hurt me!"
The sadist thinks about it and after a pause says "...no!"

Abaddon

LOL, my girlfriend will like that one!

FlyingHighNow

and maybe even adds in other tests not associated with sexual attractiveness to distract people from the central fact it is a tits and ass show.

Well, this I certainly agree with. I don't think those shows are just for men though. Who said they were? I loved to see them when I was a little girl. Our whole family watched them. I don't watch them now though.

Abaddon, as for your comparison I don't agree. The girl that Elsewhere likes is baby faced and youthful looking. She has a sweetness about her expression. Being artistic, I tend to notice details like that. I look baby faced. One time someone told my mother that I had the face of an angel. She turned and said, "Well, you don't know her." And that was true. I wasn't such an angelic person in my mother's estimation. I'm not saying that I wasn't a nice or generous person. I just wasn't angelic in the sense my mother meant.

I don't look at whether or not someone looks plain or pretty. I look at their eyes and the aura they give. The eyes really can be the window to the soul. You might see a plain person and see negative things because they don't dazzle you or make you dizzy. Then again, you may look at the things I do. People don't always match the way they look in personality though. Someone might look gruff and be a big pussy cat.

Crucifying you for what you said: that would be kind of harsh don't you think?

Pole

They all had the light hair, light eyes, and height of their Nordic ancestry (rarely needed to wear makeup), but the dark skin of their Russian ancestry.

billygoat,

I have been to Latvia a few times, but your post makes very little sense to me. ;-) (Slavic) Russians and dark skin??? And how exactly did you verify your observations of who's Russian and who's Latvian?

(I couldn't find a better topic to argue about).

Pole

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