WHAT IS INTELLECTUAL HONESTY?

by Terry 17 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • trevor
    trevor
    WHAT IS INTELLECTUAL HONESTY?

    Honest intellectual thought is a tool with mathematical precision that is the basis of engineering. It is a scientific approach and an essential part of our thinking possess. What often hinders such progress is that, as Terry said, “If there is any mismatch at all the blurred line fuzzes out into failure to recognise what is real and what isn't.”

    Also James Thomas said “All information is screened and filtered through the finely woven mental fabric of personal identity. What reinforces and supports the identity is allowed through, what does not, is filtered out.” (An Observation about Life) It is through self awareness and discipline that we seek to avoid this trap.The intellectual approach can become an identity in itself and will then often filtered out, unacknowledged, inconvenient possibilities that lead to incomplete answers. So can it be applied to all problems or challenges?

    Into the perfect mathematical approach enter other influences such as - emotion, desire, and preference. The idea that we may be more than just a brain and have a spiritual dimension to ourselves. Then there is the possibility that although we are limited by certain physical and mental restraints in this dimension we may be free of these restraints in other dimensions - if they exist. Such experiences do not fit into some scientists present understanding of life and therefore have to be dismissed because they cannot be examined in a laboratory.

    While on a two week touring holiday, I once met a bridge engineer who was responsible for some of the worlds most famous bridges. He felt he could talk to me so we had a number of meals together. He began by telling me how rich, intelligent and successful he was. He had applied his brilliant mathematical mind to every aspect of his life.

    As time passed he began to share his deepest thoughts with me. I listened and he shared more and more. He was deeply unhappy and suffering from depression. He did not realize this because emotion had not been factored in to his equation of life. He was left empty and aware that he had spent his life filtering out anything that interfered with intellectually honest. This had led to great success in the world of engineering but in the process he had filtered out a large part of himself.

    ARE YOU INTELLECTUAL HONESTY?

    To do this I would have to apply the absolute rules that Terry outlined. I do this to the degree that I can, without falling into the trap of thinking that it is possible to understand and navigate life, using just the tool of intellectual honesty. I try not identify with my emotions or my thoughts because they are changeable - but I allow my fickle and inconvenient emotions to have their say - and allow for understanding that is beyond the reach of the intellect.

  • EvilForce
    EvilForce

    Trevor...excellent post!!!

    I owed Terry an answer from another thread on this subject. However, you explained it far better than I could have. So I guess.... Ditto....yeah what he said....me too.

    LOL

  • Terry
    Terry
    Trevor...excellent post!!!

    I owed Terry an answer from another thread on this subject. However, you explained it far better than I could have. So I guess.... Ditto....yeah what he said....me too.

    Debt paid.

    Balance: $00.00

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    I would only add that Trevor's assesment of the depressed engineer is not very intellectually honest ;-) :-D

    On another track, any sentence that begins with the word "god", is almost assuredly going to be an intellectually dishonest statement ("begins" being key here...try it for yourself).

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I don't agree with the term meta-human - beyond human doesn't really accord wth my observance.

  • Terry
    Terry
    I don't agree with the term meta-human - beyond human doesn't really accord wth my observance.

    Here is the sense of it.

    Language is about something.

    Meta-language is about language.

    A human and a meta-human similarly.

    From Google:

    Apparently, David Hilbert was the first to use the prefix meta (from the Greek over) in the sense we use it in metalanguage, metatheory, and now metasystem. He introduced the term metamathematics to denote a mathematical theory of mathematical proof. In terms of our control scheme, Hilbert's MST has a non-trivial representation: a mapping of proofs in the form of usual mathematical texts (in a natural language with formulas) on the set of texts in a formal logical language which makes it possible to treat proofs as precisely defined mathematical objects. This done, the rest is as usual: the controlled system is a mathematician who proves theorems; the controlling person is a metamathematician who translates texts into the formal logical language and controls the work of the mathematician by checking the validity of his proofs and, possibly mechanically generating proofs in a computer. The emergence of the metamathematician is an MST.

  • moanzy
    moanzy

    I don't know if I "can" be intellectually honest. Since leaving the JWs and realizing I lived in a fake world filled with so many allusions and not being able to get a good education beyond high school, I am busy trying to catch up on basics of life and the world around me.

    My husband is continually amazed at the things I just didn't get because much of it is second nature to him. I am starting to be able to tell when someone is either full of crap or just speaking what they believe without full facts. The more I read the more I progress, but I am moons away from being able to back up my claims with full clarity.

    Enjoy your post Terri

    Moanzy

  • Terry
    Terry
    I don't know if I "can" be intellectually honest. Since leaving the JWs and realizing I lived in a fake world filled with so many allusions and not being able to get a good education beyond high school, I am busy trying to catch up on basics of life and the world around me.

    My husband is continually amazed at the things I just didn't get because much of it is second nature to him. I am starting to be able to tell when someone is either full of crap or just speaking what they believe without full facts. The more I read the more I progress, but I am moons away from being able to back up my claims with full clarity.

    Erasing an old view (when it encompassing the past/the present/the future) and replacing it is STUNNINGLY OVERWHELMING!

    How many can actually do it?

    You can replace a light bulb, a flat tire, a computer software and a lost contact lense; but, replacing your ENTIRE WORLD VIEW takes some genuine effort at house (mind) cleaning.

    Rooting out all the CONCEPT folders and inspecting the false definitions takes courage and dilligence.

    But, what do we replace it with?

    It takes a new methodology.

    I replaced the Bible with Philosophy.

    Mortimer J.Adler's TEN PHILISOPHICAL MISTAKES and Ayn Rand's PHILOSOPHY--WHO NEEDS IT? Gave me my new birth intellectually.

    I realize now I had a faulty grasp of Epistemology. (What do you know and HOW do you know it?)

    The rest is careful and scrupulous examination of all your personal values.

    Tough work; but, productive.

    T.

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