Residual Blood Left in Organ for Transplant.....An answer for 144,001

by EvilForce 14 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • EvilForce
    EvilForce

    144001...To answer your PM here is your answer...I've tried to keep it free of technobabble and medispeak...

    I still can't PM outgoing messages nor does it look like the problem will be addressed.

    An organ when ready for transplant is "drained" of it's blood. But this was one of my issues with the Dub's back in med school. It's not like they wash the thing out with bleach and power-wash it. Now keep in mind that organ transplants are not my area of practice....but I'll do my best.

    Each person has a specific blood type: type A+, A-, B+, B-, AB+, AB-, O+, or O-. When receiving a transfusion, the blood received must be a compatible type with your own, or an allergic reaction will occur. The same allergic reaction will occur if the blood contained within a donor organ enters your body during a transplant. Allergic reactions can be avoided by matching the blood types of you and the donor.

    The preferred method of organ preservation is simple cold storage, which involves flushing the organ with the preservative and storing at between 32 degrees F and 40 degrees prior to transplantation. The preferred organ preservation solution varies between transplant centers. Most US centers I believe still use UW solution (University of Wisconsin) named for the school that developed it. This solution is about $ 1,200 per gallon. Each organ is unique it's ability to store donor blood. Most of the donor blood is flushed out. However, not all blood can feasibly be expected to be removed. A small amount of blood would likely remain in the organ.

    Also, depending on the organ and preservative used they may flush the organ out pre-transplant due to residual potassium in the organ, which can lead to cardiac arrhythmias. Lactated ringers being an example of the solution employed.

    So can 100% of the donor blood be flushed out...no not really. How much blood is left in an organ like the liver? A teaspoon or two? A tablespoon or more? Hard to say. But the Dub stand has always been that any is too much no?

    Let me know if you have any more questions or need clarification on what I wrote.

  • Scully
    Scully
    But the Dub stand has always been that any is too much no?

    They don't seem to care too much when they're chowing down on a nice juicy medium rare T-bone, do they... otherwise they'd be shopping at the Kosher butcher shop.

  • EvilForce
    EvilForce

    Scully....exactly...

    But isn't that "meat juice"? That what mom always used to call it. LOL.

  • JW83
    JW83

    I spent many a sleepless night when I was a child because I used to eat the 'meat juice' stuck to the griller when I was supposed to be washing up! Like a vampire!

  • EvilForce
    EvilForce

    JW- you just made the vegetarian in me cringe.....LOL

    You crazy Aussies!!!

  • JW83
    JW83

    I know - the funny thing is I'm a vegetarian inside, too! Poor little lambs ...

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    The WTBTS needs a heart transplant before the bad one they have causes them to hemmorhage to death.

  • EvilForce
    EvilForce

    bttt

  • 144001
    144001
    So can 100% of the donor blood be flushed out...no not really. How much blood is left in an organ like the liver? A teaspoon or two? A tablespoon or more? Hard to say. But the Dub stand has always been that any is too much no?

    Evil Force,

    Thank you for providing the expert analysis on this issue. I have raised this issue in the past on this forum, and certain poster(s) claimed that all the blood is drained from the organ in an effort to deny the existence of an obvious inconsistency in Watchtower rules and regulations. I had tried to dig up some information but the most I came up with is the fact that organs are drained, regardless of the religious affiliation of the recipient of the organ.

    Whether it's 1 cc, 1/2 a cc, a teaspoon, or a gallon, the residual donor blood that accompanies an organ transplant enters the donor's circulatory system in a manner substantially similar to a blood transfusion. I've heard more than one explanation of the Watchtower's position on blood, but none of them result in the conclusion that a blood transfusion is ok if the amount of blood transfused is less than some miniscule quantity. The Watchtower's prohibition of blood tranfusions and acceptance of organ transplantation that necessarily involves at least some transfusion of donor blood into the organ recipient's circulatory system demonstrates the arbitrary, inconsistent, and illogical nature of the Watchtower's deadly blood prohibition it so despicably imposes upon those it has mentally enslaved.

    It would likely be quite difficult to quantify the number of lives that have been taken by the bloodthirsty Watchtower cult in its quest to exert maximal control over the lives of those it has brainwashed. If shunning doesn't work, try death. One way or another, the Watchtower cult destroys families.

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    I had the great pleasure of throwing 2 elders out of ICU 3 years ago when that question was raised by an anal-retentive elder who was grasping at straws. My patient was a 7 year old getting a heart transplant. They did everything to harrass the parents. Instead of being supportive, they were drilling them about procedures and what ifs. Making their life hell. When I let them have it, they threatned to get me in trouble. Of course, I couldn't keep my mouth shut about already knowing their believes. They tried to get it so I wasn't his nurse. It all backfired on them. What was great was calling security and having them escorted from the hospital.

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