paradise earth vs heaven

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  • golden age
    golden age

    I was wondering on many web sites the statement that the jws did not believe in paradise earth until 1935 is found. Becasue apperently some new light came to rutherford in that year and it was announced at the washington dc convention at that time. So why then did rutherford in the 1920s write the book that millions now living will never die and state that the old testament saints (abraham and isacc, ect) would NOT have and heavenly hopes and would once again live on earth. All help on this would be appreciated.

    thanks

  • gringojj
    gringojj

    I dont know but there is a verse in Matthew that clearly says that abraham and isaac will be at the table in heaven.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    There are a number of posters here who are familiar with early WT literature -- I am not.

    Fwiw, here's a recent WT presentation of this historical issue (Proclaimers, 1993, 162-3):

    Who

    Would Live Forever on Earth?

    There was no thought on the part of Brother Russell that God was offering mankind a choice—heavenly life for those who wanted it and life in an earthly paradise for those who thought they would prefer that. The Watch Tower of September 15, 1905, pointed out: "Our feelings or aspirations are not the call. Otherwise it would imply that we do our own calling. Speaking of our priesthood, the Apostle declares, ‘No man taketh this honor to himself but he that is called of God,’ (Heb. 5:4), and the place to ascertain what is God’s call is not in our feelings but in God’s own Word of revelation."

    As for the opportunity to live in a restored earthly paradise, the Bible Students believed that this would be extended to people only after all the little flock had received their reward and the millennial age had been fully ushered in. That, they understood, would be the time of "restitution of all things," as referred to at Acts 3:21. (KJ) Even the dead would then be raised so that all could share in that loving provision. The brothers envisioned all of humankind (apart from those who had been called to heavenly life) as being given their opportunity then to choose life. As they understood it, that would be the time when Christ, on his heavenly throne, would separate the people one from another, as a shepherd separates sheep from goats. (Matt. 25:31-46) The obedient ones, whether born as Jews or as Gentiles, would prove to be the Lord’s "other sheep."—John 10:16.

    After the Gentile Times ended, they thought that the time of restitution was very near; so from 1918 down till 1925, they proclaimed: "Millions now living will never die." Yes, they understood that people then living—mankind in general—had the opportunity to survive right into the time of restitution and that they would then be educated in Jehovah’s requirements for life. If obedient, they would gradually attain to human perfection. If rebellious, they would, in time, be destroyed forever.

    During those early years, the brothers had no idea that the Kingdom message would be proclaimed as extensively and for as many years as it has been. But they continued to examine the Scriptures and endeavored to respond to what these indicated as to the work that God would have them do.

    Ibid. p. 138:

    God’s

    Kingdom, the Only Hope of Mankind

    As a result of careful study of God’s Word, the Bible Students associated with Brother Russell understood that God’s Kingdom was the government that Jehovah had promised to set up by means of his Son for the blessing of mankind. Jesus Christ, in heaven, would have associated with him as rulers a "little flock" selected by God from among humankind. They understood that this government would be represented by faithful men of old who would serve as princes in all the earth. These were referred to as "ancient worthies."—Luke 12:32; Dan. 7:27; Rev. 20:6; Ps. 45:16.

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    they must have believe in something about an earthly paradise pria to 1935 as they believed that Abraham, Isaac would be risen in 1925 and be the eartly princes - there are some quotes with regards to this in Crisis of consciense - I'll check.

    The 144 000 were sealed in 1935 -

    there after everyone else gets to live on earth - there is a scripture in Matthew that does speak of the heavenly reward as dining with Abraham and Isaac....perhaps it's after the sermon on the mount not too sure. They use scriptures mainly from the Old Testiment for the earthly paradise and then the one at Revelation 21:4 - but something to think on is that in REv 19:1 & 6 it speaks about the great crowd in Heaven....

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