Georgia allows registration of WT as an NGO in 2003! no persecution! (page 2)

Jeffro

If I understand the original UN debacle correctly, the problem wasn't because they were/are an NGO, but what they had to do to apply for association with DPI, which requires that they accept the charter and principles of the UN. And after the article in the Guardian came out, they only disassociated themselves from the DPI.

Being an NGO was what required acceptance of the UN charter. 'Association with the DPI' and 'NGO status' in this context are synonymous. It is important to have the facts when making claims of a scandal.

No Apologies

As Elsewhere and Jeffro have pointed out, this has nothing to do with the WT joining the UN back in the 90's.

Golden Girl

Everyone has their own interests..if this doesn't interest you..move on...

(Said in a nice motherly tone to a non interested child...)

I understand what you are trying to say..They were only NGO's .(As far as we know).I understand that.. I'm really not a dummy..

The only thing that interests me is why they were recognized as still being a NGO member in Georgia at least a year after they resigned..get it? Either Georgia is lying..or the WTBTS signed up again..and I don't think they did as they are no longer listed under NGO's

Snoozy...Who finds the subject fascinating..

Golf

AS the saying goes Randy,"Poltics makes for strange bedfellows."

Golf

OldSoul

To clarify once and for all (hopefully):

"NGO" is not now, nor has it ever been a status of any kind. It is an adjective.

Please forgive me for shouting, but this is exactly the kind of lack of attention to detail that would be accused as deceit by Witnesses who might otherwise wake up.

NGO means non-governmental organization. It does not in any way mean a status with respect to any organization. The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is an organization. It is not a government. It is, and always will be (until it crumbles), a non-governmental organization.

Georgia (formerly part of the USSR) has recognized the Watch Tower Society as an organization that is non-governmental in nature. The Orthodox Church (the GOC) was the only one that was formerly recognized in this way.

Respectfully,
OldSoul

No Apologies

Golden Girl

The only thing that interests me is why they were recognized as still being a NGO member in Georgia at least a year after they resigned..get it? Either Georgia is lying..or the WTBTS signed up again..and I don't think they did as they are no longer listed under NGO's

(Said in a nice tone to a motherly type who is a little confused...)

You still don't get it. They are not an "NGO Member", they are an "NGO". The WT being an NGO is not a problem, the Watchtower being recognized as an NGO by Georgia is not a problem. They are an NGO. a Non-Governmental-Organization, always have been, always will be.

The question is, are they registered with the UN and its DPI as a NGO? The answer is NO. They no longer are affiliated with the UN as a registered NGO. They left back in 2001, we all know why.

So, to recap, Georgia is not lying, and the Society has not renewed their relationship with the UN.

As I said, nothing here to see...

No Apologies

OldSoul

No Apologies:

are they registered with the UN and its DPI as a NGO?

Actually, that is the very misleading question the WTS keeps asking. They were never registered with the UN/DPI. It is not possible to register with the UN/DPI. It is likewise impossible to withdraw a registration that never existed in the first place. They do not have registration papers on file, because there is no such thing. There is no relationship called "registration" between UN/DPI and any NGO, and there never has been. UN/DPI is not a registrant, and the WTS did not and could not have "registered."

That is not the one I ask. I ask, "Were they voluntarily affiliated to, associated with, or partenered with a department of the UN from 1991 to 2001?" The answer to that one is, yes.

Respectfully,
OldSoul

Kaput

I recently received a letter from the WTS regarding an inquiry I made regarding their "association" with the UN as an NGO. Part of their response is as follows: "Of course, as we have explained to others who have inquired about this matter, the criteria for association with the DPI contains some language that we cannot subscribe to, and when we realized this, we immediately withdrew our registration in 2001." (Emphasis mine)

'Nuff said.

jgnat

As if, Kaput, the WTBTS would get the story straight. The WTBS was never a DPI. They were an NGO. Now they are not.

Kaput

That is correct. They were an NGO in association with DPI. As the Directory cover (in which they're listed) states, DIRECTORY OF NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION

Georgia allows registration of WT as an NGO in 2003! no persecution!

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