For what will you be df-ed?
For saying that you do not belive in any God?
For saying to the elders you have doubs about the existence of God?
Where would they tollerate and what not?
Danny
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For what will you be df-ed?
For saying that you do not belive in any God?
For saying to the elders you have doubs about the existence of God?
Where would they tollerate and what not?
Danny
I've been d'fd because I told them I'm not under obedience to a man made organisation but under God & that I cannot follow lies.
If you say you have doubts in God - the will say that this is Gods' organisation and we have to abide by what it sets out for us - they'll turn to a scripture & let you know in no uncertain terms that you need to readjust your thinking, because if you do not then you are refuting your belief meaning you're an apostate.
At the end of the day if you do not adhere to all that the organisation states & do not show a true repentant attituded you will be declared "No longer a Jehovahs' Witness" You don't even know if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated.
Disassociated on the basis of doctrinal disagreements on blood issue, last generation, and the FDS ie the GB, claiming to be an untouchable sacred cow.
Could not understand why its wrong to accept blood that someone gave willingly and without any harm to himself the 1914 date was arrived at through a ridiculous process by an ignorant man (Russell)amateurish in religious matters, and the GB being imperfect men that inevitably make mistakes could not be above criticism.
Hah this question is kind of like asking a new prisoner: "so, whada you in for?"
DA'd because of not wanting a few old geezers that I never met telling me what to think AND!! you know the list.
False prophecy
Unkindness to the flock
Crazy blood doctrine
Crazy nearly every doctrine
6 billion lives lost, (next decade 10 billion)
Child molestation
Lack of oral sex
You want more? Orz that enough?
1st time...doing something that i didn't do. (sex)
2nd time....sleeping w/ a married man from another congo...which i know was an awful terrible thing to do and i still loathe myself for the fact of ruining the lives of two families..... even though he got away w/ a slap on the wrist b/c i had used my way of dress to seduce him and he couldn't help it....
luv, jojo
Lack of oral sex
Isn't the giving or receiving a matter of conscience?
serious question.
will p
The last actual word on it was in the 83 watchtower. At that time it was labeled as an unclean sex act that could lead to dissfellowshipping if not repentant. That direction has not been resended. Theres not been another word about oral sex between mates since, but the last word direction was that its a dfable offense .
*** w83 3/15 p. 31 Honor Godly Marriage! ***
As already stated, it is not for elders to “police” the private marital matters of couples in the congregation. However, if it becomes known that a member of the congregation is practicing or openly advocating perverted sex relations within the marriage bond, that one certainly would not be irreprehensible, and so would not be acceptable for special privileges, such as serving as an elder, a ministerial servant or a pioneer. Such practice and advocacy could even lead to expulsion from the congregation. Why?
*** w83 3/15 p. 31 Honor Godly Marriage! ***
. A person who brazenly advocates shocking and repulsive sexual activities would be guilty of loose conduct
*** w83 3/15 pp. 30-31 Honor Godly Marriage! ***
However, the Bible certainly enters into their lives. Those who would “keep walking by spirit” should not ignore the Scriptural indications of God’s thinking. And they will do well to cultivate a hatred for everything that is unclean before Jehovah, including what are clearly perverted sexual practices.
Tell them you have been worshipping Jesus just like the 12 apostles did and see how fast they announce you are no longer one of Satan's Joe Hoba's Witlesses.
Sorry, I was not asking a confession of everybodies sins here
I did 'accidently' told some people that I did question the excistance of a God (to put it mildly). The elders will probably hear this someway...
How would they react? Is this a ground for DF?
there are no other sins (that is that the elders would possible now of)
Danny
Yes, but it may end up with them saying you DAd yourself instead by renouncing the religion.