When Old Saul Dies!! GB Rumor Going Around Bethel

by frankiespeakin 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I don't have Ray Franz's book so could somebody tell me about that rumor that got the GB all upset at bethel back in 1980????

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    Just having a quick skim through -

    ''The Governing Body had ample opportunity to know that within days after disfellowshipping of the headquarters staff members, rumors of the same kind contained in this tape began circulating within the Bethel family. The ''apostates'' were forming their own religion, had been holding seperatist meetings, baptizing people, their new belief went under the name,''Sons of Freedom'' - these and similar expressions were common talk.''

    Does this ring a bell?

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Thanks for the quote but what I;m refuring to is before Franz got df'd.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    It had to do with a rumor that when old Saul dies, something about hoping for the death of a overbearing GB member that some were looking forward to and expressing it to others. It may have been about Grant Siuter now that I think about it.

    The point is that some of the big wigs actually talk hopefully of the death of certain GBs. I bet that sort of thing is till going on at bethel.

  • moanzy
    moanzy

    Some at bethel ( Ray and others) realized that the great crowd will be standing before the thone just like the 144,000. Meaning that ALL will be in heaven not just 144,000.

    Moanzy

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    Found it - same page as above quote - lol - bear with me..........

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    Bottom of page 279 (Different page from above quote - it's still early here!) -

    ''Grant Suiter said he wished to bring up a matter about which he stated there were ''considerable gossip''. He said he had heard reports that some mebers of the Governing Body and the Writing Department had given talks in which they made comments not in accord with Society teaching and that this was causing confusion. He had also heard, he said, that within the headquarters family staff some were making expressions such as, 'When King Saul dies then things will change'.'' *

    * (footnote) Persumably the reference was to the corporation president (Fred Franz), some apparently believing (mistakenly so) that the presidency still represented the power base it had occupiedup until 1976.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Yes that's it!

    I bet you those type of rumors are still going around about certain GB members. I'm sure many just can't wait for Ted Jaracz to die so that things might change!!

    I also wonder about the intense jealousy that must exist when someone gets promoted to GB or Nethinim, I bet thier are alot of struggling and back bitting going on right now at bethel.

    I'm sure quite a few hate the newest GB members.

  • frankiespeakin
  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    With the current structure I do not think it will make one jot of difference if Jaracz were to die tomorrow.

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