Learning surprising things about the jws (page 2)

PaulJ

Ok... im on page 198 of the Crisis of Conscience book (4th edition). So, so far- Mexico/Malawi, the 1914 banana's. Rutherford being an idiot. The arguments surrounding the organisational changes, theres a bit about the UN thing (but id read about that)... every page is an eyeopener. Other stuff ive seen mentioned i have got to yet....

Thing is when i left the JW's i still believed in them, and did so emphatically until the day i joined this site and started reading and chatting with you ''evil apostates'' Now my eyes are opened, and the things i must have just ignored, sheeplike- i just followed without question, i can see clearer than ever. This has helped me make sense of things and stop the guilt i had in the back of my mind.

I have you lot to thank for that, and i am eternally greatful!!!

lisavegas420

One of the surprising things I found out, was how wrong the JW's were when it came to "worldly" people.

Lisa

talesin

Blood portions, okay no big surprise there, since I already knew about the organ transplant flipflop because of personal experience, and had dealt with their lies about murdering people in the name of religion.

Malawi didn't shock me .... the UN thing was interesting, but not surprising ... I always knew, since I was 17, that the JW was a sham, although since I left so young, I wasn't aware of these scandals till I joined JWD.

But, the shocking thing to me was the Silent Lambs ... I was and still am outraged ... that so many people could cover up child rape ... not just the clergy, but so many parents. arrggghhhhh And are still doing it, in this day and age!!!!

How many elders that I knew and thought were essentially good though misled people, have committed this abomination?

How many brother and sister so-and-so condoned the rape of their own child, and then watched the rapist go on to rape others' children,,, children they would sit beside in the KH, not some anonymous victim, but someone they KNEW???? I can't bear to think of it, it sickens and disgusts me.

I just can't get over this. I want to shout it from the rooftops.

I apologize to any ex-elders or exJW parents who may be saddened by my comments ... you have opened your eyes and as one of these children who survived, I forgive you and feel much compassion for the guilt you may live with ... let it go! You've done the right thing now, and turned your back on the b'Org. That is all a person can do, once they realize they have been wrong. I've made a lot of mistakes myself, and there is no sense dwelling on the past.

xo

tal

rebel8

It took me only a few weeks to realize that I wasn't the failure, but the WTBS.

Wow! Whatever you did to accomplish this realization at breakneck speed, be sure to share your insights with other newly-deborgified people. A lot of pain would be spared if people could come to that realization in a few weeks rather than a few years.

katiekitten

I didnt know Rutherford was a drinker.

I didnt know the governing body meetings were conducted like business meetings. I know its not the most important thing to learn, but it did shock me because I always honestly believed they were all prayerful and holy.

I am still and ever will be angry about the abuse, even though it is not my experience. It has been an eyeopener and an education to read of peoples experiences first hand and share their hurt.

Doubtfully Yours

I only found out about the UN/NGO and many other characters and behaviors of the WBTS by coming to this forum.

Thanks JWD!

DY

Emma

I knew who Ray Franz was but nothing about his book; I'd avoided it, still being afraid of "apostate" stuff. It was scary to open it, and I was in a terribly sad mood for a couple of weeks. The Malawi/Cuba information literally hurt; I cried over this remembering the reports of the faithful ones in Malawi I heard when I was a child.

I knew nothing about the UN, blood factions, child molesters being protected, the 1914/generation switch, etc. I came here with a little part of me thinking "they" might be right.

Thank you Randy and Simon (and Ang!).

Emma

AK - Jeff

Actually for me, it was not what I learned after I left- It was what I learned that caused me to leave.

I just could not stay part of something so duplicitous in nature!

Jeff

TemperateWarrior

One thing that I found out and keep finding out that completely floored me was what an abysmal translation the NWT is.

Using the "New Kingdom Interlinear" translation (it was the only one I had) and later a NASB/NIV interlinear on the New Testament opened my eyes to something:

EVERY DOCTRINE UNIQUE TO THE WITNESSES HAS BEEN REINFORCED BY A DELIBERATE TWEAKING OF AT LEAST ONE BIBLICAL PASSAGE.

Sometimes my wife mentions attending some of the meetings. (This was the first year both of us skipped the Memorial.) Sometimes the thought-control chip goes off and for a half-second I think, "Hmmm, maybe it wasn't quite so bad as all that." Then I come to my senses.

If start to get complacent I just grab the latest issue of the Watchtower or Awake! and double check the secular quotations and scriptures used. That always gets me sufficiently teed off. Then I show it to my wife and she comes to her senses too.

-TW

TooOpinionated

rebel, I should have clarified that it only took me a few weeks after coming to this site and reading Ray Franz. For the 3 years previous, I felt the problem was with me, and the elders played a big part in that. I honestly felt that I had failed in life because I couldn't reconcile what I felt to what the elder's were telling me about child molestation. It was a horrible period.

After finding out that my own gut feelings were justified, I had incredible white-hot anger. It has not dissipated, just cooled down so that I can think clearly about how to expose the WTBS. Like I told the elders, if I don't say anything or pretend there aren't child molesters, then I am just as guilty as the actual perpetrator for enabling those people.

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