Thanks James for that excellent article!!! I have never read it before and the part Tetra pulled out...wow !! I feel better just reading all that. This explains why so many like the people mentioned at the beginning can't pull themselves free. There's also a definate element of what happens to people in abusive relationships..the slavish cowed under belief that they MUST be at fault, they MUST deserve the abuse because they have done something wrong. Or the flip side of the scenario...oh well it's all I've got, it's all I know. It's the same mentality as the abused wife who has no where to turn, no education and no support system. The dubs I've known are cemented into the very same conviction that they cannot survive without the organization, even though it is choking the life they have now right out of them. I count myself lucky to have had the ability to see behind the mask. Then one day I became a problem to them for leaving an abusive husband and that was it. The whole greasy pile of shite just toppled over and that was that. It shook me to the core, and the ensuing insights were not easy to take. But I did it and I survived to have a much better life than I ever had as a dumb agent of the Borg.
OMG! When does it end? Cognitive Dissonance is pandemic!
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carla
Oh, that stupid question, where else can we go? If they would bother to pick up their Bible they would see the question isn't 'where' but, to whom. I brought this up to husband a while back when he said if I could find somewhere else better to let him know. I reminded him that it was to 'whom' not where (meaning Jesus not an org) he just said that's right and we both let it go. I'm trying a new tact at the moment. carla
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greendawn
where can they go? they have been so brain washed they can't see that there are many religions out there that are not cultist and are better than the jws, but again perhaps deep down they fear shunning that's why they stay in though they can much is wrong.
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Hellrider
That article was very good, JT. I`ve read it once now, gonna read it again tomorrow, cause I really should...I need it (I`m a sceptic with a bad temper... )
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upside/down
Thanks all...
Now I'm off to blow things up with some illegally bought fireworks....
My first "4th" in twenty years....woooohoooo!
u/d (of the likes to blow things up class)
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greendawn
The WTS shackles are off!
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potleg
The problem for many JW's is they have surrendered their ability to think for themselves. Over and over and over they have been told there is nowhere else to go and so even when they see or even encounter problems with the Org. all they have is their conditioned response...nowhere else to go...wait on jehovah...we all know the drill... A great place to go for starters would be right here because most of us have had to get over this mind set. JW's need to see that they have been misled. You can be a happy x-JW and there is an alternative. Does anybody have a hammer and chisel
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jula71
The problem is, the R&F have this implanted terrified fear of anything apostate. ANYTHING that causes doubt, they are taught to run from. The challenge is, how to overcome that fear. The dub's do away with reason and rational thought. I'm in college now, if there is something in class I don't understand, I research and study it MORE. The dub view is to write it off as being "food for mature ones" and your understanding will come in time, the last thing they do is research. If you overcome that fear, you can help rescue them.
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upside/down
The problem is, the R&F
Is that they're R&F!
u/d (of the breaking ranks class)