noah's ark

by kittyeatzjdubs 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I used to enjoy doing that public talk "The Flood of Noah's Day has Meaning for Us" , I was good at describing how they worked out the length of a cubit and how practical it was to believe it because the proportions of the ark were similar to a ship- and all that stuff about flood "evidence".

    Now I am still not one to rubbish the Bible, but one must question the literalness of the early chapters of Genesis . The recent media coverage about wooden ships as used at Trafalgar has made me think about this . I am not technical, or clever but the following questions occur to me.

    Naval architects say that the maximum length for a wooden ship would be around 300 feet. Longer ones might have been built but were braced with metal . This is based on a proper ship with a cental keel and timbers radiating from it giving a residual strength like egg shape, not a rectangular box. I contend that an ark of the size suggested would have broken up on the waves. If it were smaller, it would not carry the loads of animals storage and bedding that was required.

    To get the timber would have required levelling miles of trees. Furthermore, one cannot just fell a tree and cut it into a ship. Timber stands for years to be seasoned . The construction of such an ark would be a logistical miracle (Ok I know that dubs believe in the hand of god but....)

    The illustations in WT books show an ark that is built up from the ground level, not in a cradle or dry dock. Noah was told to cover it with pitch inside and out. How was he to pitch the bottom? The best he could do would be coat each timber before he laid it down and then calk it from the inside. Not very effective.

    We have pictures of a very big door in the side. The door seems to be drawn up to close it. That means that a watertight seal had to be designed around the door, technology only invented in the 20th Century for roll on roll off ferries.

    I am sure that there are a lot of other points that could be raised. It is a pity that most of the websites are run by fundamental Christians who wish to prove the account rather than be objective - and I used to think that J W's had thought up their arguments all by themselves.....

  • kittyeatzjdubs
    kittyeatzjdubs

    i also enjoyed the part when they made it clear that if a wooden boat was at sea for 40 days and 40 nights, the wood would begin to mishape and the ark would sink like swiss cheese. they said that if a great flood did occur, it's more likely that it was only for about a week at most, and that it probably took place in noah's locality instead of worldwide.

    they also pointed out that if every glacier in the world melted and allllll the snow, it still wouldn't be enough to cover the earth. and if it were to really rain for forty days and forty nights, it would change the earth's atmosphere so drastically that people would drown just by breathing the water vapor in the air.

    course.......they had jehobah's holy hand over them didn't they?

    luv, jojo

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Further to tetra's point -

    Not only does the WTBS argue that belief in numerous cultures proves the flood is true, they also argue that the belief in an immortal soul in numerous cultures proves they have all been lied to by Satan.

    Now go figure..

    HB

  • Carol
    Carol

    Now wait just a minute you guys/gals! I just came back from the Winn-Dixie (grocery store) and according the the latest reports as second ark has been found! There has to have been a flood that destroyed all but Noah's family.....don't tell me the National Enquirer lies!

  • kittyeatzjdubs
    kittyeatzjdubs

    ok.....i won't

    luv, jojo

  • freedom96
    freedom96


    For those who believe the story of the flood, one thing to remember, in regards to the structual integrity of the ark, is that if God deluged the earth with a flood, don't you think that God could keep the boat together?

  • Huxley
    Huxley

    Don't forget about Noah's quick stop in Australia to drop off the Koalas. "Good luck little guys!" Huxley

  • GetBusyLiving
    GetBusyLiving

    :if God deluged the earth with a flood, don't you think that God could keep the boat together?

    And I guess he could have miraculously transported all of the animals, magically shrunk all of the animals to fit in the ark, hidden all of the evidence of a global flood from scientists to really f*ck us up, and while he was at it planted Neanderthal bones and evidence of evolution to really REALLY f*ck us up, and he could have..

    GBL

  • kittyeatzjdubs
    kittyeatzjdubs
    And I guess he could have miraculously transported all of the animals, magically shrunk all of the animals to fit in the ark, hidden all of the evidence of a global flood from scientists to really f*ck us up, and while he was at it planted Neanderthal bones and evidence of evolution to really REALLY f*ck us up, and he could have..

    haha! word! i mean, does it ever occur to these people that there are millions of species of animals? and noah got 2 of everyone in that boat??? puh-leeeeeeeze.

    luv, jojo

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    Aren't Fairy Tales great...

    let's read another one before bedtime.... There was once three little pigs...

    u/d (of the prefers actual fables to fables posing as reality class)

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