District Cultvention: Ramblings and Musings

by truthseeker 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    "He who has endured to the end is the one who will be saved."

    And yes, I endured. All three days.

    The Convention was pretty much what everyone else here wrote about.

    To start with, the whole THEME of the talk, "Godly Obedience" was about obedience to the Faithful Slave Class (no evidence of why they are faithful) and the elders.

    Elders are DIRECTLY appointed by Jehovah.

    So what happens if an elder doens't follow FDS instructions and does something wrong? We still obey them.

    The speaker used the account of Uzzah (who grabbed hold of the ark because it nearly fell) and David, who committed adultery with Bathsheba. Uzzah died for his "irreverant act", but David was Jehovah's anointed.

    In other words, David sinned, and he was still King - he still ruled; elders still sin, but they are still APOINTED by Jehovah, so we should obey them.

    A whole talk was devoted to showing LOYALTY to the visible organisation Jehovah is using, and this of course is the "Faithful Slave" (TM)

    If any of you have the program, you will notice that there is NOT A SINGLE TALK about Jesus Christ - our savior and redeemer didn't get an honorable mention over the course of three days.

    The speakers only refer to Jesus when it harmonizes with their doctrine, notably, "You will be witnesses of me" or "Go therefore and make disciples."

    It was Jehovah this, or Jehovah that, or obey Jehovah.

    The whole convention was full of thinly veiled implied threats of DEATH if you didn't serve Jehovah fully.

    "Is it enough brothers to attend all the meetings and have a token share in field service?"

    The Drama was OK, but again, higher education WAS STRONGLY condemned.

    Youths, are you pursuing spirital goals like TIMOTHY? In the drama, it was alluded to that if you have a family, are comfotable and doing well financially, THIS IS WRONG? Young people - what are your spiritual goals?

    In other words, all young people should be REGULAR PIONEERS - full time service, Bethel service, Gilead School, MTS school

    This directly contradicts what the Bible says, namely, that some will be EVANGELIZERS, some wil be TEACHERS others will be SHEPHARDS.

    The Society wants your SOUL young ones!!!!

    There was a talk about "Reaching out" - if you are a brother with no responsibilities, GODLY OBEDIENCE should make you reach out.

    They give a demo on the platform about a young brother who notices that the elders in his congregation are doing the microphones, the sound systems etc. This young brother is thinking out loud to himself, about how he should be reaching out and how GODLY OBEDIENCE will move him to do this.

    As a poster mentioned on here earlier, the ENTIRE program is devoid of love, compassion and charitable works. There was no commendation, nothing new and more of the old "Do More".

    I felt empty, but then at least I was prepared for it.

    What an utter waste of time.

    They even had a talk, "Return to the Shepherd of Your Souls", for inactive ones to go back to "Jehovah's Organization"

    I have this to say: The GB must be desparate. In times past, you would not hear all this rhetoric about "obeying the slave", now it's a relentless drumbeat for EACH and EVERY talk.

    The more fear they instill, the more guilty the average dub becomes.

    It's a sick religion and it must end.

  • itsallgoodnow
    itsallgoodnow

    There's only so much of it people can take before they start shutting it out. Once they do that, they don't really hear anything anymore except for their own thoughts. I think eventually, it will die a slow death on it's own. The WTS now just doesn't seem to have the talent anymore, they don't have any charisma. It's just a relentless guilt trip, going on for years now. Unless you get off on that type of thing, it's not enough.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    There was a talk about "Reaching out" - if you are a brother with no responsibilities, GODLY OBEDIENCE should make you reach out.

    They give a demo on the platform about a young brother who notices that the elders in his congregation are doing the microphones, the sound systems etc. This young brother is thinking out loud to himself, about how he should be reaching out and how GODLY OBEDIENCE will move him to do this.

    Looks like the predicted "Brain Drain" is well underway. The WTS is very reactionary, never proactive. If they are giving talks like this then it means the Brain Drain problem is already causing substantial harm.

    So long as the WTS continues to beat the sheep, they will continue to loose the sheep.

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

    It really was awful. About 59 got baptized.

    I made a point of NOT clapping like a seal.

    It was obvious that the speaker WAITED to allow for applause.

  • Emma
    Emma

    I've been gone a while; when did the dc's go to three days? The circuit assemblies used to be three days! What's the reason for shortening them?

    The dc's were five days, with an eight day international assembly every few years. We used to schlep kids to these things, I even did it camping because I couldn't have afforded it any other way. I just can't imagine it now!

    Emma

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Another thing, attendance was about 8,000 on FRIDAY and 10,000 on SUNDAY!!!

    I wandered round in the corridors during the program, my legs can only take so much of the limited room you get.

    There were 100s of people wandering about, doing nothing or chatting with their friends, not a few on cellphones.

    Others just enjoyed the sun outside the facility.

    I noticed some of the attendants were eating Dunkin Donuts - wonder if they got them prior to the convention or got them at lunch?

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    One more thing...

    The program is broadcast on something like 101 FM.

    Would it be possible I wonder, to bring in an IPOD, a radio transmitter tuned to the frequency of the talk, and have an MP3 of Crisis of Conscience being broadcast to everyone using their FM radio?

  • luna2
    luna2
    There's only so much of it people can take before they start shutting it out.

    YES! Tuning out or dropping out. I was almost suicidal I was so depressed. There was no joy for me in being one of Jehavah's "happy" people. All I could think was that there was something so very wrong with me that I wasn't happy. I didn't know what to do except take a mental-health break from the "truth". It was either find some joy in life or lay down and die...and the meetings, JW gatherings and service were a real source of depression that I had to escape. Thanks for your thoughts on the DC, truthseeker. It's really interesting to get everybody's take on it. LOL on broadcasting CoC through Radio Dub at the conventions. Teehee!

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    The program is broadcast on something like 101 FM.

    Would it be possible I wonder, to bring in an IPOD, a radio transmitter tuned to the frequency of the talk, and have an MP3 of Crisis of Conscience being broadcast to everyone using their FM radio?

    In theory it is possible, but you would need a very strong transmitter that is very expensive. It would actually be easier to just transmit static so it will act like a "jammer" and prevent the very few listeners from hearing the program.

    Oh, and make sure you are prepared to pay some steep fines and possibly serve some time... using a jammer in the US is a federal offence.

  • blondie
    blondie

    In many congregations there are no potential MS since the young men leave at 18 never getting baptized; those who do end up being DF'd before 20. The elders in this area were complaing because if no flunky brothers to do sound, mikes, lit, mags, territory, accounts, the elders have to do it. I know one elder "does" the accounts; really his wife does it and he signs it.

    Blondie

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