Got Dragons?

by prophecor 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • prophecor
    prophecor

    Hey, lets call a spade a spade. Came across this while doing some Bible reading with the Wife. She's pointing out to me as I'm doing my #2 talk to her in Job 41, Gods having to tell Job where to get off one day on account of his self righteousness, and shes saying to me, " That's a Dragon, He's Describing a Dragon !!! " I kept reading although slightly miffed that she was calling out from the audience about dragons and ya' know?, the more I read, the more I realized, she had a good point, not that it was right, necessairilly, but it was a very good point. Crocodiles? I think not, anymore, either. We're in the no spin zone, what say you JWD?

    Job 41

    1 "Can you pull in the leviathan [a] with a fishhook
    or tie down his tongue with a rope?

    2 Can you put a cord through his nose
    or pierce his jaw with a hook?

    3 Will he keep begging you for mercy?
    Will he speak to you with gentle words?

    4 Will he make an agreement with you
    for you to take him as your slave for life?

    5 Can you make a pet of him like a bird
    or put him on a leash for your girls?

    6 Will traders barter for him?
    Will they divide him up among the merchants?

    7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons
    or his head with fishing spears?

    8 If you lay a hand on him,
    you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

    9 Any hope of subduing him is false;
    the mere sight of him is overpowering.

    10 No one is fierce enough to rouse him.
    Who then is able to stand against me?

    11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
    Everything under heaven belongs to me.

    12 "I will not fail to speak of his limbs,
    his strength and his graceful form.

    13 Who can strip off his outer coat?
    Who would approach him with a bridle?

    14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth,
    ringed about with his fearsome teeth?

    15 His back has [b] rows of shields
    tightly sealed together;

    16 each is so close to the next
    that no air can pass between.

    17 They are joined fast to one another;
    they cling together and cannot be parted.

    18 His snorting throws out flashes of light;
    his eyes are like the rays of dawn.

    19 Firebrands stream from his mouth;
    sparks of fire shoot out.

    20 Smoke pours from his nostrils
    as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.

    21 His breath sets coals ablaze,
    and flames dart from his mouth.

    22 Strength resides in his neck;
    dismay goes before him.

    23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined;
    they are firm and immovable.

    24 His chest is hard as rock,
    hard as a lower millstone.

    25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified;
    they retreat before his thrashing.

    26 The sword that reaches him has no effect,
    nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.

    27 Iron he treats like straw
    and bronze like rotten wood.

    28 Arrows do not make him flee;
    slingstones are like chaff to him.

    29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw;
    he laughs at the rattling of the lance.

    30 His undersides are jagged potsherds,
    leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.

    31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron
    and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.

    32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake;
    one would think the deep had white hair.

    33 Nothing on earth is his equal—
    a creature without fear.

    34 He looks down on all that are haughty;
    he is king over all that are proud."

    Footnotes:

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    So it is. Another scripture I managed to miss for 30 years!

  • the_classicist
    the_classicist

    Maybe it's that dinosaur in Jurassic Park that could shoot poison.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Good grief that is two scriptures today that have been pointed out that I have missed all these years

  • Ms. Whip
    Ms. Whip

    "So God created the Great Dragons"
    ...Genesis 1:21 The Latin Vulgate; 5th Century

    "The Destruction of Leviathan," an engraving made in 1865 by Gustave Doré . The engraving
    depicts God slaying the legendary Leviathan, a sea monster. Doré was inspired by
    Isaiah 27:1: "In that day, the Lord will punish with His sword, His fierce, great and powerful
    sword, Leviathan the gliding serpent, Leviathan the coiling serpent; He will slay the monster of the
    sea."

    I really think men should LISTEN to their wife a lot more then they do! wives are smart.

    the bible talks about monstrous sea creatures, behemoths, dragons. It was a symbol of evil to be ultimately defeated by the power of good.

    here's another example of dinosaur like creatures:

    JOB 40

    15 "Look at the behemoth , [a]
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.

    16 What strength he has in his loins,
    what power in the muscles of his belly!

    17 His tail [b] sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

    18 His bones are tubes of bronze,
    his limbs like rods of iron.

    19 He ranks first among the works of God ,
    yet his Maker can approach him with his sword.

    20 The hills bring him their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.

    21 Under the lotus plants he lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

    22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround him.

    23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed;
    he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

    24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes, [c]
    or trap him and pierce his nose?

    in this chapter, perhaps job was describing a Apatosaurus or Diplodocus.

  • prophesariah
    prophesariah

    Hummm! Very interesting.

  • under74
    under74

    Never even thought about it....weird...

  • sonnyboy
    sonnyboy

    Do you know what this makes me think?

    That carbon dating is a bunch of BS. I've seen many documentaries depicting accounts of dinosaur-like creatures during historic times.

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    Probably an apostasaurus, or a juthinkhesaurus.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    I vaguely remember asking about that and being told the scrip was referring to a mythical creature.

    Apatosaurus

    I thought you said Aposta-saurus!!!! LOL

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