Could someone post the May 15 1984 Watchtower articles ???

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  • run dont walk
    run dont walk

    My elder brother seems to think the Watchtower never said that, these articles are about the 1914 generation that will not pass away, I beleive they are study articles also, so if someone could post the articles in their entirety form the magazine or direct me to a website that has them, would be appreciated. I'm pretty sure it was May 15, has the logo on the front cover, 1914 thegeneration that will not pass away, might be May 1, 1984, not sure.

    thanks

    run

  • Honesty
    Honesty


    *** w84 5/15 4-7 1914-The Generation That Will Not Pass Away ***
    1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away
    “THIS generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur,” said Jesus. (Matthew 24:34) But what is meant by the word “generation”?
    In his book The Generation of 1914, professor of history Robert Wohl presents an unusual definition when he states: “A historical generation is not defined by its chronological limits or its borders. It is not a zone of dates . . . It is more like a magnetic field at the center of which lies an experience or a series of experiences. . . . What is essential to the formation of a generational consciousness is some common frame of reference that provides a sense of rupture with the past . . . This frame of reference is always derived from great historical events like wars, revolutions, plagues, famines, and economic crises.”
    From that point of view, the Great War of 1914-18 and its aftermath certainly formed a “frame of reference” to mark a generation. As professor Wohl comments: World War I created “an overwhelming sense of rupture with the past. Those who lived through the war could never rid themselves of the belief that one world had ended and another begun in August 1914.”
    Jesus used the word “generation” many times in different settings and with various meanings. But what did he mean when he spoke of a ‘generation that would not pass away’? Some have interpreted “generation” to mean a period of 30, 40, 70 or even 120 years. However, a generation is really related to people and events, rather than to a fixed number of years.
    The Greek word rendered “generation” in the Bible has been defined as, “Those born at the same time . . . Associated with this is the meaning: the body of one’s contemporaries, an age.” (The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology) “The sum total of those born at the same time, expanded to include all those living at a given time generation, contemporaries.” (A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament from Walter Bauer’s Fifth Edition, 1958) These definitions embrace both those born around the time of a historic event and all those alive at that time.
    If Jesus used “generation” in that sense and we apply it to 1914, then the babies of that generation are now 70 years old or older. And others alive in 1914 are in their 80’s or 90’s, a few even having reached a hundred. There are still many millions of that generation alive. Some of them “will by no means pass away until all things occur.”—Luke 21:32.
    Since 1914 we have already lived through two world wars and many other major conflicts, along with famines, earthquakes, pestilences and the like. (Luke 21:10, 11) Yet Jesus said: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” (Matthew 24:34) Therefore, you might ask: What other major events remain to be seen by the generation of 1914? And can these actually take place in the time period that remains for that generation?
    What Happens Next?
    Especially since 1919 have Jehovah’s Witnesses been fulfilling on a remarkable scale and against earth-wide opposition Jesus’ prophecy: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14) Yes, this is the work that has to be completed to Jehovah’s satisfaction before the end comes.
    What other events must take place in the period left for the generation of 1914? The Bible clearly points to certain major developments that will lead into and form a part of the “great tribulation” that culminates in Armageddon, “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” (Matthew 24:21; Revelation 16:14, 16) It is urgent that you know what these developments are and that you take necessary protective action before it is too late.—Zephaniah 2:3.
    One of these developments was prophesied by the apostle Paul when he stated: “You yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.” This prophecy makes it clear that, just prior to the end of this system of things, “peace and security” will be declared in some exceptional way, whether by the United Nations or independently by political and religious leaders. What will follow that declaration? Paul said: “Then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3.
    Does Your Religion Matter?
    Could that destruction affect you? Well, do you belong to one of the world’s many religions? Do you know how God views those religions? What is their future?
    Under the symbol of a “great harlot” named “Babylon the Great,” the inspired apostle John described a system that has benefited for centuries from intimate association with “the kings of the earth” who wield political power. This “harlot” has also benefited from dealings with “the traveling merchants,” that is, the world’s commercial element. What system is this that has also lorded it over the “peoples and crowds and nations and tongues”? It is false religion! Yes, all religions that are false from Jehovah God’s standpoint constitute this “great harlot,” who is actually a world empire. But what does the immediate future hold for her?—Revelation 17:1-8, 15; 18:15-17.
    Revelation 17:16 indicates that radical political elements within the United Nations (the “scarlet-colored wild beast”) will hate the religious harlot and devastate her. Already, powerful atheistic and antireligious elements in the UN have taken steps to stamp out religion within their domain. But more drastic action is expected in the near future when these political elements devastate not only Christendom but also the other great religious systems. Logically, the anti-God forces will also attack Jehovah’s Witnesses who faithfully proclaim God’s Kingdom. This will be tantamount to attacking God himself and will provoke retaliation—God’s war of Armageddon!—Revelation 17:3, 12-16; 16:14-16; Ezekiel 38:10-12, 18-23; Zechariah 2:8.
    Is There Enough Time?
    From a purely human viewpoint, it could appear that these developments could hardly take place before the generation of 1914 disappears from the scene. But fulfillment of all the foretold events affecting the generation of 1914 does not depend on comparatively slow human action. Jehovah’s prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: “This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur.” (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son’s words in a relatively short time.—Isaiah 46:9, 10; 55:10, 11.
    Are there any past examples of Bible prophecies’ being fulfilled in the face of human disbelief and skepticism? Yes, and we can briefly examine one of these. In the year 33 C.E., Jesus foretold regarding Jerusalem and its temple: “As for these things that you are beholding, the days will come in which not a stone upon a stone will be left here and not be thrown down. Furthermore, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near.”—Luke 21:6, 20.
    Thirty-three years later, the Roman army, under Cestius Gallus, attacked Jerusalem and was at the point of victory. Inexplicably, however, General Gallus ordered his troops to retreat. As a consequence, some of the Jews must have thought that their sacred city would not suffer destruction. But such a thought was short-lived. Four years later, the Roman armies under Titus came back and destroyed Jerusalem and its temple.
    Thus Jesus’ prophecy came true right down to fine detail. As G. A. Williamson said in his introduction to Josephus’ The Jewish War: “Had we no other sources of information than the gospels we should be tempted to suspect that the warnings of Jesus were couched in hyperbolical [exaggerated] language . . . Was it possible that of that mighty Temple not one stone should be left upon another, that should not be cast down? It was indeed possible; it is historical fact. The destruction was utter and complete . . . The whole tragic story had been foretold with startling accuracy.”
    Just as Jesus’ prophecies regarding Jerusalem were fulfilled within the life span of the generation of the year 33 C.E., so his prophecies regarding “the time of the end” will be fulfilled within the life span of the generation of 1914. (Daniel 12:4) This means that marvelous prospects lie before not only that generation but all those living today. Why? Because Jesus also said regarding the significant events affecting that generation: “When you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near.”—Luke 21:28, 31.
    The nearness of God’s Kingdom today spells the end of the present divisive political, religious and commercial systems. It means the ushering in of a righteous new government for all obedient mankind. You can choose everlasting life under this arrangement of “new heavens and a new earth.” (2 Peter 3:13; John 17:3) Yes, you may live to see this promised New Order, along with survivors of the generation of 1914—the generation that will not pass away.

  • Legolas
    Legolas

    I think this is the one your looking for:

    1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away

    "THIS generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur," said Jesus. (Matthew 24:34) But what is meant by the word "generation"?

    In his book The Generation of 1914, professor of history Robert Wohl presents an unusual definition when he states: "A historical generation is not defined by its chronological limits or its borders. It is not a zone of dates . . . It is more like a magnetic field at the center of which lies an experience or a series of experiences. . . . What is essential to the formation of a generational consciousness is some common frame of reference that provides a sense of rupture with the past . . . This frame of reference is always derived from great historical events like wars, revolutions, plagues, famines, and economic crises."

    From that point of view, the Great War of 1914-18 and its aftermath certainly formed a "frame of reference" to mark a generation. As professor Wohl comments: World War I created "an overwhelming sense of rupture with the past. Those who lived through the war could never rid themselves of the belief that one world had ended and another begun in August 1914."

    Jesus used the word "generation" many times in different settings and with various meanings. But what did he mean when he spoke of a ‘generation that would not pass away’? Some have interpreted "generation" to mean a period of 30, 40, 70 or even 120 years. However, a generation is really related to people and events, rather than to a fixed number of years.

    The Greek word rendered "generation" in the Bible has been defined as, "Those born at the same time . . . Associated with this is the meaning: the body of one’s contemporaries, an age." (The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology) "The sum total of those born at the same time, expanded to include all those living at a given time generation, contemporaries." (A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament from Walter Bauer’s Fifth Edition, 1958) These definitions embrace both those born around the time of a historic event and all those alive at that time.

    If Jesus used "generation" in that sense and we apply it to 1914, then the babies of that generation are now 70 years old or older. And others alive in 1914 are in their 80’s or 90’s, a few even having reached a hundred. There are still many millions of that generation alive. Some of them "will by no means pass away until all things occur."—Luke 21:32.

    Since 1914 we have already lived through two world wars and many other major conflicts, along with famines, earthquakes, pestilences and the like. (Luke 21:10, 11) Yet Jesus said: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) Therefore, you might ask: What other major events remain to be seen by the generation of 1914? And can these actually take place in the time period that remains for that generation?

    What

    Happens Next?

    Especially since 1919 have Jehovah’s Witnesses been fulfilling on a remarkable scale and against earth-wide opposition Jesus’ prophecy: "This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) Yes, this is the work that has to be completed to Jehovah’s satisfaction before the end comes.

    What other events must take place in the period left for the generation of 1914? The Bible clearly points to certain major developments that will lead into and form a part of the "great tribulation" that culminates in Armageddon, "the war of the great day of God the Almighty." (Matthew 24:21; Revelation 16:14, 16) It is urgent that you know what these developments are and that you take necessary protective action before it is too late.—Zephaniah 2:3.

    One of these developments was prophesied by the apostle Paul when he stated: "You yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them." This prophecy makes it clear that, just prior to the end of this system of things, "peace and security" will be declared in some exceptional way, whether by the United Nations or independently by political and religious leaders. What will follow that declaration? Paul said: "Then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them."—1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3.

    Does

    Your Religion Matter?

    Could that destruction affect you? Well, do you belong to one of the world’s many religions? Do you know how God views those religions? What is their future?

    Under the symbol of a "great harlot" named "Babylon the Great," the inspired apostle John described a system that has benefited for centuries from intimate association with "the kings of the earth" who wield political power. This "harlot" has also benefited from dealings with "the traveling merchants," that is, the world’s commercial element. What system is this that has also lorded it over the "peoples and crowds and nations and tongues"? It is false religion! Yes, all religions that are false from Jehovah God’s standpoint constitute this "great harlot," who is actually a world empire. But what does the immediate future hold for her?—Revelation 17:1-8, 15; 18:15-17.

    Revelation 17:16 indicates that radical political elements within the United Nations (the "scarlet-colored wild beast") will hate the religious harlot and devastate her. Already, powerful atheistic and antireligious elements in the UN have taken steps to stamp out religion within their domain. But more drastic action is expected in the near future when these political elements devastate not only Christendom but also the other great religious systems. Logically, the anti-God forces will also attack Jehovah’s Witnesses who faithfully proclaim God’s Kingdom. This will be tantamount to attacking God himself and will provoke retaliation—God’s war of Armageddon!—Revelation 17:3, 12-16; 16:14-16; Ezekiel 38:10-12, 18-23; Zechariah 2:8.

    Is

    There Enough Time?

    From a purely human viewpoint, it could appear that these developments could hardly take place before the generation of 1914 disappears from the scene. But fulfillment of all the foretold events affecting the generation of 1914 does not depend on comparatively slow human action. Jehovah’s prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: "This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur." (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son’s words in a relatively short time.—Isaiah 46:9, 10; 55:10, 11.

    Are there any past examples of Bible prophecies’ being fulfilled in the face of human disbelief and skepticism? Yes, and we can briefly examine one of these. In the year 33 C.E., Jesus foretold regarding Jerusalem and its temple: "As for these things that you are beholding, the days will come in which not a stone upon a stone will be left here and not be thrown down. Furthermore, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near."—Luke 21:6, 20.

    Thirty-three years later, the Roman army, under Cestius Gallus, attacked Jerusalem and was at the point of victory. Inexplicably, however, General Gallus ordered his troops to retreat. As a consequence, some of the Jews must have thought that their sacred city would not suffer destruction. But such a thought was short-lived. Four years later, the Roman armies under Titus came back and destroyed Jerusalem and its temple.

    Thus Jesus’ prophecy came true right down to fine detail. As G. A. Williamson said in his introduction to Josephus’ The Jewish War: "Had we no other sources of information than the gospels we should be tempted to suspect that the warnings of Jesus were couched in hyperbolical [exaggerated] language . . . Was it possible that of that mighty Temple not one stone should be left upon another, that should not be cast down? It was indeed possible; it is historical fact. The destruction was utter and complete . . . The whole tragic story had been foretold with startling accuracy."

    Just as Jesus’ prophecies regarding Jerusalem were fulfilled within the life span of the generation of the year 33 C.E., so his prophecies regarding "the time of the end" will be fulfilled within the life span of the generation of 1914. (Daniel 12:4) This means that marvelous prospects lie before not only that generation but all those living today. Why? Because Jesus also said regarding the significant events affecting that generation: "When you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near."—Luke 21:28, 31.

    The nearness of God’s Kingdom today spells the end of the present divisive political, religious and commercial systems. It means the ushering in of a righteous new government for all obedient mankind. You can choose everlasting life under this arrangement of "new heavens and a new earth." (2 Peter 3:13; John 17:3) Yes, you may live to see this promised New Order, along with survivors of the generation of 1914—the generation that will not pass away.

    [Picture on page 5]

    "One world had ended and another begun in August 1914"

    [Pictures on page 6]

    ‘When they say "Peace and security!" sudden destruction will be upon them’

    [Picture on page 7]

    You, along with survivors of the generation of 1914, may live to see a New Order

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    I don't have the copies but I must ask, how long has your brother been a witness? Is he your elder brother or your brother an elder? I am amazed when I hear stories of how someone doesn't believe the 1914 teaching changed.

    That's all most of us talked about, the advancing age of the generation of 1914. How old would they be now and when would they die off. I mean come on, we all knew that the 1914 generation was our one sure way of calculating that the end was near. The other signs can be sort of up and down, but not old age - it's a one way trip.

    You should show your brother how the age of the generation changed over time as well. At first you had to be an adult in 1914 to understand what happened; then it slowly became that even a 1914 baby could be counted in that generation. When even that wasn't working the entire doctrine went away.

    A true blue dub will say that the teaching was used by Jehovah to help us (dubs) even though we don't understand it.

  • blondie
    blondie
    My elder brother seems to think the Watchtower never said that, these articles are about the 1914 generation that will not pass away

    I take it he wasn't alive had thinking capacity in 1984. He has access to a WT-CD and the bound volumes. Why is he afraid to check it out.

    **

    w90 10/15 p. 20 Be Thankful—Jehovah’s Messianic Kingdom Rules ***

    And as the generation that heard Christ’s judgment message lived to experience the destruction he foretold, so the present generation since 1914 "will by no means pass away" before the foretold "great tribulation" comes.—Matthew 24:21, 22, 34.

    ***

    w88 11/1 p. 6 The War to End Wars ***

    Jesus said: "This generation [the one seeing the events starting in 1914] will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) What things? All the disasters and turmoil that Jesus prophesied for our day.

    ***

    w84 3/1 pp. 18-19 Kingdom Unity a Reality Today ***

    And Jesus has told us to rejoice at seeing the dark storm clouds of Armageddon gathering since that time. He has told us that the "generation" of 1914—the year that the sign began to be fulfilled—"will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!

    ***

    w84 5/15 pp. 6-7 1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away ***

    From a purely human viewpoint, it could appear that these developments could hardly take place before the generation of 1914 disappears from the scene. But fulfillment of all the foretold events affecting the generation of 1914 does not depend on comparatively slow human action. Jehovah’s prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: "This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur." (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son’s words in a relatively short time.—Isaiah 46:9, 10; 55:10, 11.

    *** w84 5/15 p. 7 1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away ***

    Yes, you may live to see this promised New Order, along with survivors of the generation of 1914—the generation that will not pass away.

    *** w84 11/15 p. 23 "The Time Left Is Reduced" ***

    Then, too, there has been a dwindling in the number of those of "this generation" of 1914, which is not to pass away before the fulfillment of all that Jesus foretold for our time. (Matthew 24:34) This is another clear indication that this system’s end is near.

    *** w83 4/15 p. 4 The Black Horse of Famine ***

    For many years Jehovah’s Witnesses have made known that it is the generation that saw the year 1914 that has witnessed the results of the horseman’s passing.

    *** w81 11/15 p. 11 "Peace and Security!"—Then "Sudden Destruction" ***

    Jesus foretold that some of those who were alive when the "last days" began would live to see this system’s end. Already 67 years have passed since the "generation" of 1914 saw the start of these troubles. (Matt. 24:34) So time has nearly run out on this "crooked and twisted generation." (Phil. 2:15) Shortly we may be eyewitnesses of the fulfillment of the many Bible prophecies related to ‘the passing away of this world.’ (1 John 2:17) And we can have complete confidence that these prophecies will be fulfilled in every detail. Jehovah, "the One telling from the beginning the finale," the One who has inspired these prophecies, "has sworn, saying: ‘Surely just as I have figured, so it must occur; and just as I have counseled, that is what will come true.’"—Isa. 14:24; 46:10; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21.

    *** w80 10/15 p. 31 Questions from Readers ***

    Yes, there was a generation of people that was living in 1914, and that saw the major historical changes from an era of comparative tranquillity to the present era of war, lawlessness and ruination. Many who are now Jehovah’s Witnesses were among them. Truly, 1914 marked "the supreme example" of change, for that year set in motion the foretold "beginning of pangs of distress" among the nations. Many persons are still alive who can tell us how catastrophically conditions on earth changed in the year 1914. And the world continues to plunge into worse and worse trouble. We can be happy, therefore, for Jesus’ assurance that there will be survivors of "the generation of 1914"—that this generation will not have completely passed away—when the "great tribulation" rings down the curtain on this wicked world system.

    *** w74 6/15 p. 359 The Horsemen of the Apocalypse—Their Effect on Our Lives ***

    Jesus stated, as recorded at Matthew 24:34: "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." The generation that saw the beginning of "these things" in 1914 is now well up in years and, in fact, is near to ‘passing away.’ Therefore, the time must be close for the "great tribulation" and the ‘day of wrath’ of God and Jesus Christ.

    *** w73 10/1 p. 583 God Takes Action at the Appointed Time ***

    This entire sign, climaxed by the "great tribulation" and the end of this "system of things," will take place before the generation of 1914 ‘passes away.’ (See Matthew chapters 24 and 25; Mark 13 and Luke 21.)

    *** w70 4/15 p. 244 Does Church Failure Mean that God Is Wrong? ***

    The long-awaited kingdom of God is now at hand and will transform this beautiful earth of ours into a paradise like Eden. And all of this before the generation that saw the beginning of these turbulent events in 1914 passes off the scene!

    *** w70 5/1 p. 273 An Ingathering Affecting All Mankind ***

    However, Bible chronology which indicates that Adam was created in the fall of the year 4026 B.C.E. would bring us down to the year 1975 C.E. as the date marking 6,000 years of human history with yet 1,000 years to come for Christ’s Kingdom rule. So whatever the date for the end of this system, it is clear that the time left is reduced, with only approximately six years left until the end of 6,000 years of human history. (1 Cor. 7:29) This corroborates the understanding of Jesus’ words that the generation alive in 1914 with the outbreak of World War I would not pass away until the end comes. Only a short time, then, remains for persons who love righteousness to show God that they want to be in his "ark" of protection and live to see the blessings of the new system of things.—Matt. 24:34-42.

  • undercover
    undercover

    Ya gotta love this one:

    *** w84 3/1 pp. 18-19 Kingdom Unity a Reality Today ***

    And Jesus has told us to rejoice at seeing the dark storm clouds of Armageddon gathering since that time. He has told us that the "generation" of 1914—the year that the sign began to be fulfilled—"will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!

    oops. Missed it again.

  • bennyk
    bennyk

    From the "Reasoning" book: "that some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of the present wicked world" (p. 200).

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    A Witnesss' biggest fear is that the Watch Tower Society will be proved wrong. That's why they all clap when the Society changes an error and delivers a new explanation of the old explanation to believe. They don't want the Society to be wrong, that's why facts and evidence won't affect them and that's why they avoid us and shun us. They WANT to be Witnesses. They LIKE being Witnesses.
    I like them being Witnesses, so everybody's happy on my side of the street.

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    A Witnesss' biggest fear is that the Watch Tower Society will be proved wrong. That's why they all clap when the Society changes an error and delivers a new explanation of the old explanation to believe. They don't want the Society to be wrong, that's why facts and evidence won't affect them and that's why they avoid us and shun us. They WANT to be Witnesses. They LIKE being Witnesses.






    You have made my day with this, Gary.






  • zulukai
    zulukai

    Right ON, Gary! The hard core dubs have a "reality filter" securely installed in both ears and wear special glasses that block out all evidence that the WTBTS is wrong about anything. I nearly fell over one day when I tried to talk to a friend about the endless filp flopping of the 1914 doctrine and she just got this sicky-sweet condescending look on her face and said "Jehovah is merely testing Us!"

    That's their world and they're welcome to it!!!

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