Charles Russell: What caused his death? (page 2)

MidwichCuckoo

Judging by an earlier thread I think the cause of death was an ill-fitting toga and a shortage of industrial strength 'Preparation H'.

MerryMagdalene

Finally found the thread to which I believe Leolaia was referring, but the scanned document is no longer there. Possibly, someone could ask RR to post it again, if he's still around.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/78134/1.ashx

~Merry

Heard on the Rialto - well, actually the bridge over the Up line from Anerley to Balham - that the particular train in 1916 was the subject of an internal enquiry by the SIS . .. seems the mid-war scenario posed a few additional questions on the political (as well as ideological) activities of the aformentioned Charles Russell . . . any comments ?

Check_Your_Premises

Merry,

I read through that whole stupid account to get to this gem:

We called in the Pullman conductor and also the porter and said, "We want you to see how a great man of God can die." The sight deeply impressed them, especially the porter.

I bet you a butt-load that they walked out and started laughing at those looney toon whack-jobs.

That account is too much. What a melodramatic, self-aggrandizing, control freak.

jaffacake

I heard he died in great pain on a train - heart attack, and he quickly asked to be wrapped in a toga. Yet more occultism on which the Watchtower religion was founded? There is a theory that contributing factors included hard work and travel, and of course he was a broken broken man due to the massive disappointment of his failed prophecies in his role as the sole faithful & discreet slave (as appointed by his former wife - Maria).

The funniest thing to me is that both Russell and Rutherford both died without ever knowing that Christ's invisible presence started in 1914. They both thought it started in 1874 until their dying days. Why else was it called The Watchtower & Herald of Christ's Presence long before 1914? All this is according to the official watchtower history, the proclaimers book. So after Jesus inspection in 1919 he appointed an organisation who were not even watching for his arrival in 1914, unlike Christians (as JWs thought he was already here) and they were denying there was such a FDS class or organisation in 1919 and thereafter.

Oh sorry, I've gone off on one....

funkyderek

According to David Icke:

Russell was buried under a pyramid in the United States after being ritually killed on Halloween 1917.

But then David Icke is as mad as a bag of ferrets.

See http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/russell.html for more wacky nonsense.

WILKO

He had heart attack when he realised he got his ninety hours in this month on his report

Pleasuredome

he died through asphexia, playing dodgy sex games with some young bethalites.

helios

I may be able to help here. The Pastor never enjoyed good health and was subject to almost continual headaches resulting from a severe fall in his youth.

His death on a train during a very busy series of lectures seems to have been caused by a severe urinary infection. There is no evidence he was poisoned. With him during his last hours was Menta Sturgeon his secretary (Ihope I spelt his name right) He recalls a graphic description of Russell's end. At least he died with "his boots on" unlike the drink soaked Rutherford.

In the early 80's I was able to interview a gentleman called Mr. Hudson who worked at the London Bethel. He informed me that around 1911 Russell was at the Bethel when he endured a massive heart attack. He went into total cardiac arrest with a total stoppage of the heart for 3 MIN. The doctor who was called expressed the view that his body was totally worn out. It is interesting that there seems to have been something of a change in Russell after that experience. For example Menta Sturgeon recalls tthat whoever spoke him would always be asked the same question by the Pastor, "Have you totally didicated yourself to the Lord, to do his will?" This was to complete strangers, not Bible Students. Mr. Hudson was at the Bethel in London when the Judge came over. He saw in him a bombastic bully and no fit man to follow in Russell's footsteps. He was also in Scotland, I think it was in Glasgow, when a year ot two later Rutherford found himself with a rebellion on his hands. From rank and file. Following a very large and heated meeting in which many hundreds were present Rutherord demanded comformity to the SOCIETY or as he put it "Let the lame ducks get out. " According to Mr. Hudson the greater bulk of the audience got up and left. Mr. Hudson remarked it was the only time he ever say Rutherford totally lost for words. I do not support Russell's theology in any shape or form my only interest is in the history of this dangerous cult. By the way Mr. Hudson was a lead projectionist for the Photodrama.

Charles Russell: What caused his death?