Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal (page 3)

Hellrider

...pic from watchtower of the harlot riding the beast...with the UN-building in the background! http://www.jwfiles.com/art/Babylon1963p577.htm

mouthy

I dont know about you lot. But it just sickens me so deeply to keep listening to their lies.their cover-ups.

they hold my kids hostage....& dare to call ME a discontent!!!!If any of the "elders" read this site.PLEASE dont continue on this very evil organization The WATCHTOWER.

Gadget I love you((((HUG)))

Goldminer

Keep in mind,they're not Lion Tamers,they're Lyin' Bastards!

The reply I'm going to send is to the sister who wrote to the society, not the wbts itself. Its more going to be along the lines of 'you know I've been looking into this, thanks for sending me a copy of the letter you received. I've still got a few questions about it, I wonder if you found the answers to any of them while you were looking in to it?'

The main difference I can see between this letter and the one listed on legolas's link is they already get round the problem of them not needing to become an NGO to access the library, they say thats what they got told at the time. If I call them a barefaced liar the sister who I'm writing to will just switch off and not listen to a word I say.

What I found more interesting was the link to the press release from 1992 where they state that to be accepted as NGO's they must show support for the charter of the UN. And perhaps more importantly, the association of one inactive NGO was terminated. This means that if the wbts did not present evidence of their work, including showing support etc, their membership would have been terminated.

I was thinking of sending a copy of the QFR where it was stated the joining the YMCA even to just use the gym was a disfellowshipping offence because it meant you agreed with their principles instead of relyin on Jehovah.
lol... great idea! Something tells me THAT particular question will not be published.
Hell, give it a try and see what happens!

That was a question from readers from the late 70s I believe. Can someone post a copy of it, and also the article which the letter refers to? I don't have the WT library on my computer anymore, cheers.

Paul

sixsixsixtynine

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/watchtower.pdf

4 March 2004

To Whom It May Concern,

Recently the NGO Section has been receiving numerous inquiries regarding the association of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York with the Department of Public Information (DPI). This organization applied for association with DPI in 1991 and was granted association in 1992. By accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities.

In October 2001, the Main Representative of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York to the United Nations, Giro Aulicino, requested termination of its association with DPI. Following this request, the DPI made a decision to disassociate the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York as of 9 October 2001.

Please be informed that it is the policy of the Department of Public Information of the United Nations to keep correspondence between the United Nations and NGOs associated with DPI confidential. However, please see below the paragraph included in all letters sent to NGOs approved for association in 1992:

"The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies. Consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your organization's information programme as it relates to the United Nations, including sending us issues of your relevant publications. We are enclosing a brochure on the "The United Nations and Non-Governmental Organizations", which will give you some information regarding the NGO relationship."

In addition, the criteria for NGOs to become associated with DPI include the following:

• that the NGO share the principles of the UN Charter;

• operate solely on a not-for-profit basis;

• have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and a proven ability to reach large or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community;

• have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins and pamphlets, organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting the cooperation of the media.

We expect that you will share this information with your concerned colleagues, as we are unable to address the scores of duplicate requests regarding the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society that are being directed to our offices. Thank you for your interest in the work of the United Nations.

Sincerely,

Paul Hoeffel

Chief

NGO Section

Department of Public Information

sunshine2

I had receiced a similar letter to my UN questions.....but it said in part:

We had been using the library for many years prior to 1991, but in that year UN personnel on duty at the time told our representative that it would be necesssary to register as an NGO to have continued access.

So when I called in Brooklyn and said that surely the brothers did not just take someones word for it and asked to have this new rule in writing.......I would like to have a copy of the new rule.

But the brother said that they did not keep paperwork from so long ago....lying straight into my ear! Disgusting!

sunshine

sf

Some on our writing staff had been using the United Nations library facilities for many years prior to 1991

All the while preaching that it was indeed part of Satans System here on earth.

sKally

BluesBrother

What does this article say? Why would they published a "balanced" view of the wild beast?

* w95 10/1 p. 7 A World Without War—When? ***

" THE

CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE UNITED NATIONS

In Bible prophecy, human governments are often symbolized by wild beasts. (Daniel 7:6, 12, 23; 8:20-22) Hence, for many decades the Watchtower magazine has identified the wild beasts of Revelation chapters 13 and 17 with today’s worldly governments. This includes the United Nations, which is depicted in Revelation chapter 17 as a scarlet-colored beast with seven heads and ten horns.

However, this Scriptural position does not condone any form of disrespect toward governments or their officials. The Bible clearly states: "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves."—Romans 13:1, 2.

Accordingly, Jehovah’s Witnesses, who are maintaining strict political neutrality, do not interfere with human governments. They never foment revolution or participate in acts of civil disobedience. Rather, they recognize that some form of government is necessary to maintain law and order in human society.—Romans 13:1-7; Titus 3:1.

Jehovah’s Witnesses view the United Nations organization as they do other governmental bodies of the world. They acknowledge that the United Nations continues to exist by God’s permission. In harmony with the Bible, Jehovah’s Witnesses render due respect to all governments and obey them as long as such obedience does not require that they sin against God.—Acts 5:29."

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The previous article was "Fifty years of Frustrated Efforts " which described the UN's high ideals but a failure to achive them

juni

Amen! Gadget. I also remember this about membership at the Y's. There are two sets of standards here. Sad part of it is that they equate your obedience to the organizations rules to your standing with your Creator. That is playing with peoples' minds and their emotional well being.

Juni - or French Girl to my friend Obi wan, heh Obi if you're reading this??

Hellrider

However, this Scriptural position does not condone any form of disrespect toward governments or their officials. The Bible clearly states: "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God

WTF?! The governments and the UN stand placed in their relative positions by God? I thought this was Satans world, at the moment, cause God had allowed Satan to ravage the earth and "tempt humanity" now in these last days? And now they say that these authoroties has been placed there by God? So God placed the scarlet-colored beast/United Nations there?

Now I`m really confused...

Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal

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