Awake! proves existence of God and disproves evolution

by IronGland 15 Replies latest jw friends

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  IronGland

  Wickedness does not in itself prove that God does not exist. To illustrate: A man may design a knife to be used to carve meat. A customer may purchase the knife and use it, not to carve meat, but to commit murder. The fact that the knife was misused in no way disproves the existence of its maker. Similarly, the fact that the earth has not been used in harmony with its intended purpose does not mean that it did not have a Creator.
  
  

  The Swedish man mentioned earlier was moved when he saw the suffering of fellow humans. Really, his tender concern for others confirms the existence of God. How so?

  For most people, the only alternative to belief in God is belief in evolution. Evolutionists teach "survival of the fittest"—that humans and animals compete within their kinds for survival. The fittest live; the weakest die. That is the natural order of things, they say. But if it is "natural" for the weak to die in order to make room for the strong, how can we explain the fact that, like the Swedish man, some strong humans are moved at the sight of the suffering of their fellowman?-Awake!
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  Satanus

  How do we explain that some animals are moved by the suffering of other animals?

  Elephant Unlatches Gate To Save AntelopesRense.com

  Elephant Unlatches Gate To Save Antelopes 4-12-3

  EMPANGENI, South Africa (AFP) - The matriarch of a herd of elephants in South Africa opened a gate with her trunk to free antelopes being held at a camp in the east of the country.

  Lawrence Anthony told the SAPA news agency Tuesday that a private game capture company had rounded up the antelopes at their camp near Empangeni to relocate them for a breeding programme.

  The team were settling in for the night when the herd of 11 elephants approached, he said.

  "The herd circled the enclosure while the capture team watched warily, thinking the herd were after lucerne (alfalfa) being used to feed the antelope," he said.

  The herd's matriarch, named Nana, approached the enclosure gates and began tampering with the metal latches holding the gates closed.

  She carefully undid all the latches with her trunk, swung the gate open and stood back with her herd.

  "At this stage the onlookers realised this was not a mission for free food, but actually a rescue," Anthony said.

  The herd watched the antelope leave the camp before they walked off into the night.

  Ecologist Brendon Whittington-Jones said: "Elephant are naturally inquisitive -- but this behaviour is certainly most unusual and cannot be explained in scientific terms".

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  Satanus

  Ps, since i noticed the title, i saw it was tongue in cheek. Cool

  Pps, Perhaps my post proves the hindu elephant shaped god exists along side the human imaged god.

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  aniron

  
  

  Presumely the enclosure was wooden fencing and gate.

  Why didn't the elephants just break down the gates?

  Why would such a powerful creature fiddle around undoing the latches ? ANything on Rense.com should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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  Satanus

  I did a search of the story. I didn't find any retractions or debunkings of it.

  http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=The+matriarch+of+

  a+herd+of+elephants+in+South+Africa+opened+a+gate+with+her+trunk+

  to+free+antelopes+being+held+at+a+camp+in+the+east+of+the+country.

  +&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as

  _dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images

  Why didn't the elephants just break down the gates?

  Why would such a powerful creature fiddle around undoing the latches ?

  Maybe they aren't as stupid as we think? Maybe they previously saw people fiddling w the latches? Perhaps i should send a letter, general delivery to empangeni, sa to find out.

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  jaffacake

  
  
  Good one, lol. I find it so daft to reduce faith into a choice between God and evolution.
  

  
  
  Seems like typical JW 'logic' or even straw man argumentation.
  

  
  
  Suggestion for an Awake article: Which do you believe in, invisible demons, or electricity?
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  nilfun

  The Swedish man mentioned earlier was moved when he saw the suffering of fellow humans. Really, his tender concern for others confirms the existence of God.

  
  

  
  No, it confirms that he is just a really nice Swedish dude.
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  rebel8

  How many non-facts can we count?

  1. The fact that the knife was misused in no way disproves the existence of its maker. Similarly, the fact that the earth has not been used in harmony with its intended purpose does not mean that it did not have a Creator. Of course not--why are you claiming that people believe this disproves intelligent design? Honestly, I've never met anyone who does believe that. Disproving something that no one believes--how clever! It still doesn't prove there is or ever was a loving god who is all-good and has the power to help human affairs though, and that's the secret point you're trying to make.
  2. The Swedish man mentioned earlier was moved when he saw the suffering of fellow humans. Really, his tender concern for others confirms the existence of God. How so? Yeah, that's what I want to know. One man's compassion does nothing to prove the existence of god, sorry. And your answer, which comes next, is actually changing the subject instead of responding to your own question.
  3. For most people, the only alternative to belief in God is belief in evolution. Who are these "most people"? On what data are you relying to make such a sweeping generalization? There are many people who believe lots of things in between belief in the Christian god and the Big Bang, which is what you're really trying to say when you say the word "evolution".
  4. Evolutionists teach "survival of the fittest"—that humans and animals compete within their kinds for survival. The fittest live; the weakest die. That is the natural order of things, they say. Uh, no. Charles Darwin taught that, and that was a long time ago. The rest of the world believes in evolution today because it is a scientific fact. Some people don't agree with Darwin's theories. Another sweeping generalization designed to put all non-JWs into the "all bad" category.
  5. How can we explain the fact that, like the Swedish man, some strong humans are moved at the sight of the suffering of their fellowman? And by this you're trying to say that this act is inconsistent with evolution? Beeeep, wrong answer again. I believe this act is very consistent with evolution. Mankind is now evolving in social ways as well as physical.
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  patio34

  How can we explain the fact that, like the Swedish man, some strong humans are moved at the sight of the suffering of their fellowman?

  Humans evolved, as did many other species, as a social group. The "moved at the sight of the suffering of their fellowman" comes from this social cooperation for the survival of the species. In fact, the smaller bands and villages were usually related, furthering their desire to help others of their gene pool. The ones that stuck with the group and helped survived better (because others helped them too) and passed on their genes. Hence, we have inherited that tendency to assist others.
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  Elsewhere

  The same reasoning could be used to proove that there is no god. Just because someone uses a military knife to build something useful and good for others does not mean that there is a god.

  You make the assumption that helping others and doing good can only happen under the direction of a higher power.