I always sniggered at the " pummel your body into submission " quote.
Hee hee.............pummel
Dams (who got in trouble at the hall for laughing, a lot)
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I always sniggered at the " pummel your body into submission " quote.
Hee hee.............pummel
Dams (who got in trouble at the hall for laughing, a lot)
It was either send a love letter or have phone sex. Hmmm.......After reading that article, I'm horny.
The interesting thing I find in that article is that it does not mention that an act of phone sex is -- or at least was at one time -- considered a judicial matter worthy of reproof or disfellowshipping. About four years ago there was a letter read to all servant bodies during their bi-annual meeting with the CO regarding this "new information."
My guess is that there was a flood of reproofs and disfellowshippings, followed by a lot of questions from servants as to the legitimacy of branding this as a "gross sin." It seems that the WT has changed it's position based on the rather light counsel it gives in this article -- basically just tell your parents and POSSIBLY the elders. I would venture to say that they WT now views phone sex in the same league of sins as watching pornographic videos and masturbation. This would be a great project for someone to call the Society to find out what their current position is on the matter. Of course, one would have to be naked while calling...
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Oh! I remember this article. Look at the young guy with the laptop that is looking guilty. What is he holding in his hand???
Logan, don't assume that the WT. has changed its policy. They just don't tell you that you've committed a "judicial" sin until you open up to the elders BUT if you are repentant, they'll allow you to "stay in Jehovah's clean Organization".
More evidence that phone sex is no longer considered a judicial matter is in the following quote from the article:
Intimate talk that deliberately arouses immoral thoughts or that triggers masturbation is obviously unclean in Jehovah's eyes. And it could lead to even more serious violations of godly principles.
Obviously, if it could lead to more serious violations -- ie "fornication" -- it is not considered as serious -- ie "judicial." This is damn annoying since I was privately reproved for a total of two -- count 'em, TWO -- acts of phone sex a few years ago. I wrote about it in a thread of mine a while ago.
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Minimus,
True. That might be the case. Although, if so, I would call this article almost deliberate obfuscation since it does not explicitly mention phone sex as a judicial offense. I mean, if you are going to be a legalistic religion doesn't it make sense that your followers KNOW THE LAWS in detail?
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Still judicial...
You can successfully expel unclean thoughts from your mind by dwelling on upright things. ( Philippians 4:8 ) Surround yourself with friends who use wholesome speech, and read God's Word and Christian publications daily to fortify your resolve. In this way you will not allow room for immoral fantasies to creep in and corrupt your thinking. Most important, pray to God for help.
The old standby----read more "Christian publications", (i.e. WTS and not The Plain Truth mags) and pray more. The same cut and dried counsel is given when you are feeling depressed, and for everything else!
I imagine the "reading of the publications" would help in this case, because any sexual desires would be toast when you got through reading that crap!
I haven't seen any other thing mentioned as a judicial offense on their web site, but maybe I'm forgetting. I don't think they put themselves out to the public as being legalistic and punitive, or at least they try not to. Keep up appearances, you know.
This would be a great project for someone to call the Society to find out what their current position is on the matter.
Good idea. Any volunteers? Do I see Richie Rich raising his hand?