The 3rd return visit.............

vitty

This got me thinking when I read another post "Not knocking"

We could count the 3rd and subsequent return visits, a bible study, if you read a scripture. These were called door stop studies. I had quite a few, so although my report looked good and so did a few others. The reality was truly terrible.

Id start of with a bit of chit chat, then say "Last week we were talking about this paragraph" usually in the What God requires brochure. Then Id read the sighted scripture and that was it. A bible study all 2 minutes of it. And the best thing was, the householder didnt even know they were having one

How many here used these tactics? I must add it was approved by the CO he showed us how to do it !

rebel8

That was definitely not the practice in my area. RVs were RVs. Only called it a study if you had an appointment and the person verbally agreed to have a study.

carla

They knew and even showed you how? Amazing! Just goes to show you they cared more about numbers than any actual Bible studies. carla

katiekitten

I remember that method and tried to use it many times. I was so hopeless I couldnt even manage a deceitful bible study!

But its entirely true, we were encouraged to start off with one of those thin brochures and work through it on the door step until they had got used to the idea of us coming round every week, and eventually invited us in.

Ingenuous

I knew about the "3rd return visit" rule, but never thought a study could be less than 15 minutes (at least initially). Man, I missed out on so many possible studies - I could have gotten in some serious time with "letter writing" studies too!

misanthropic

I've heard about this before, but unfortunately my bad service attitude didn't get me even that far with any potential "quickie studies". I say unfortunate because I could't even fake a bible study whereas lots of other people I knew of were holding several real ones every week. I'm glad now though, since I don't have to live with the guilt of misleading any other people into the troof.

defd

I think thats a great way to get someone started. It is not misleading at all.

Lilycurly

Yes, it was very common over here, probably still is. Never managed to do it once though. I thought it was a pretty lame thing to count it as a study. But you know...it does look good on a report.;P

AK - Jeff

Pretty smart sales pitch - huh?

I pioneered for years and although I used this approach sometimes to get conversations started and to continue such - I never counted it a BS at that point. If this is the case - then how many of the BS's mentioned in the KM and annual reprort are nothing more than just 3 or 5 minute presentations?

When I was coming in the 'truth' in the late 60's you could not even count it a 'backcall' [now RV] unless you read three scriptures and spent over 5 minutes. At least it was something like that. I might have missed the time required a little - that is a long time back now.

Point being that what witnesses count a study now would not even have qualified as an RV back then.

Anyone else remember that - and better details?

Jeff

BluesBrother

Were you a pioneer Vitty?

It is just the thing a savvy pioneer practices. You are right, in that the rules allow that type of reporting and some C/o's will encourage it. Personally, like somebody up the thread, I could hardly ever get that far either

There were always two sorts of reporter , in my days as secretary. Those that could have counted a lot more than they put down, and those who extracted the most from their activity to put down on paper.

Doesn't make you mad know to look back and realise how much of our valuable time we squandered in that work?? It is not even as if we were produductive in witnessing. Hour after hour was spent trudging from door to door when there was little chance of finding anybody home, let alone a hearing ear . Looking back we must have been really stupid

The 3rd return visit.............

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