Olin Moyle's son approved--then disapproved

by Bonnie_Clyde 16 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • VM44
    VM44

    Consider what Moyle says about the "Treatment of the Brethern"

    (1) Shortly after coming to Bethel we were shocked to witness the spectacle of our brethren receiving what is designated as a "trimming" from you. The first, if memory serves me correct, was a tongue lashing given to C. J. Woodworth.

    (2) Others have been similarly treated. McCaughey, McCormick, Knorr, Prosser, Price, Van Sipma, Ness and others have been similarly scolded.

    (3) This summer some of the most unfair public reproaches have been given. J. Y. McCauley asked a question which carried with it a criticism of the present method of Watch Tower study. For that he was severely reprimanded.

    (4) Brother Worsley received a public denunciation from you because he prepared and handed to brethren a list of helpful Scripture citations on fundamental topics.

    (5) [Concerning the ushers at the Madison Gardens talk] They were on the job immediately when the disturbance started and quelled a disturbance which would have otherwise reached serious proportions. But for two weeks following the convention there has been constant criticism and condemnation of them from you. They have been charged with dereliction of duty and labeled as "sissies".

    (6) You have stated many times that there are no bosses in the Lord's organization but the undeniable fact cannot be evaded that your actions in scolding and upbraiding these boys are the actions of a boss. It makes one sick at heart and disgusted to listen to them. If you will cease smiting your fellow servants Bethel will be a happier place and the Kingdom work will prosper accordingly.

    It is amazing that these people put up with these "trimmings" from Rutherford. In fact, during the Moyle court trial, these very people who were subjected to a tongue lashing by Rutherford denied on the stand that he ever did speak harshly in public to them.

    Also, no one of these people (except Moyle) wrote about Rutherford's bossy, overbearing and unkind treatment. I find that amazing. The only reason I can think of is that to speak out against Rutherford would have lead to them being booted out of the organization, and after Rutherford died, what would be the point of saying anything? Hence everyone remained silent. This also makes it easier for The Watchtower to say anything it wants to about Rutherford at this late date, such as "Rutherford was a humble man"!!!

    But still, with all the people who were at Bethel and knew Rutherford personally for years, one would think someone would have written something about Rutherford.

    The truth of the matter is that "Judge" Rutherford was a loud, pompous, overbearing, opionated oaf!

    --VM44

  • VM44
    VM44

    Based upon my previous post just above, one would have to say that no one at Bethel said anything about Rutherford because The Watchtower organization is populated by a bunch of "Yes Men"!

    "Yes Judge! Anything you say Judge!", "You are right, Judge", "May I have another verbal trimming, Judge ?" I'll say anything for the Theocracy, Judge"

    I believe that attitude is not far from what was actually the case at Bethel back in the 1930s.

    --VM44

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    Don't have access to my CD ROM right now but I'm almost sure I read an autobiography written by Fred Franz and that he mentioned getting severely criticized at one point by Rutherford. Although he felt a little offended at first, he decided that he probably deserved the reproof. Can anybody find Fred Franz's story?

  • bennyk
    bennyk

    Are you perhaps making reference to Albert Schroeder receiving a "trimming"? It was mentioned in his Life Story in the 1988 WT (I am also nowhere near an Index).

  • VM44
    VM44

    Why didn't anyone try to "trim" Rutherford? Wait...that is what Olin Moyle tried to do politely with his letter...and looked what happened.

    "Judge" Rutherford, the "untrimable"! (except by the Bethel barber!)

    --VM44

  • VM44
    VM44

    It appears that Rutherford was uncontrollable...that is...everything had to be done his way, the way he thought was "right".

    Anyone that did otherwise or raised questions about Rutherford's way was sent walking.

    The Watchtower tries to spin it this way by saying Rutherford held to his convictions, trying to make Rutherford's personality, which they admit was of a strong nature, into a virtue.

    But when The Watchtower quotes an old experience of someone saying Rutherford was "humble" (the person back then was praising Rutherford so as to show publicly they were going along and were with the organization), they go too far.

    Rutherford was an loud, authoritarian, egotistical man with delusions of grandeur!

    and just think about it...back then, they couldn't get rid of him! they were stuck with him! That is why Beth Sarim was build, to get Rutherford away from Brooklyn so things could be done without his interference!

    --VM44

  • peggy
    peggy

    I find this thread amazing! The letter was sincerely written, was respectful and forth right. This is the kind of information WTS would prefer that the average JW does not know about. Thus, stay off the internet!!! Am I to believe that the attitudes and behaviors have changed over the years? I think NOT!

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