QUOTES and "Breach of contract"

by hamsterbait 26 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  Leolaia

  I think the "breach of contract" in this instance is, as the lawsuit states, "relating to use of the Plaintiff's 'Watchtower Library" on CD-ROM, i.e. the User's Agreement.

  3. RESTRICTIONS ON USE. You may not do any of the following: transmit all or any portion of the SOFTWARE by electronic means, such as E-mail; post all or any portion of the SOFTWARE on the Internet, a public network, or any type of electronic message board; copy, print, or excerpt from the SOFTWARE to prepare and distribute books, booklets, or any compilation of Watch Tower’s copyrighted material; copy the Printed Materials.

  
  
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  TD

  I'm wondering the same thing as ithinkisee. How can it be know whether the quotes came from the EULA protected CD or from some moldy old WT bound volumes? Are there "canary traps" built into the CD text?
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  jgnat

  How is this agreement different from standard-issue programs? I'll bet there are differences.
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  Finally-Free

  How can it be know whether the quotes came from the EULA protected CD or from some moldy old WT bound volumes?

  Scanners and OCR was widely available long before the Jehovahs Shitnesses came out with a CD, and there's good old fashioned typing as well. There's no way to prove it came from the CD.

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  Finally-Free

  How is this agreement different from standard-issue programs?

  It can only be used by Jehovah’s Witnesses

  You may transfer all the SOFTWARE and all Printed Materials to another party who is one of Jehovah’s Witnesses but only if that party accepts all of the terms of this Agreement, and such party's possession or use of the SOFTWARE shall be deemed to be such acceptance.

  Although I don't see how they could enforce that. They have no ownership of the words "Jehovah’s Witnesses" nor do they have the right to forbid anyone from calling themself a witness of Jehovah.

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  Stealth

  I noticed that on "conditions of use" it says nothing about using it for skeet practice. whew!
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  Jourles

  If you breach any of the terms of this Agreement, then Watch Tower may terminate this Agreement and require you to return the original medium containing the SOFTWARE, and you then must certify in writing that you have not retained or transferred any copy of the SOFTWARE.

  Well it sounds like the WTS terminated their agreement. So that means that Quotes just needs to send back the CDROM and it's all good.
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  RichieRich

  bad for quotes...

  If someone is baptized as a minor, this means that the "contract" is not legal, as minors cannot enter into contracts.

  Under the Law, minors cannot donate gifts, whether money, cars or computers.

  They can therefore demand the return of all monies and properties gifted under the illegal contractual association with WTS.

  Does this also mean that anyone baptized under the new contractual implications of JW baptism vows - as a minor - can also legally insist that a DF be cancelled, as the baptism is an illegal contract, (therefore invalid), and only those with valid baptismal contracts can be DF.

  good for Richie.
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  AlmostAtheist

  It may be helpful if someone could post the entire text of the license agreement.

  What, and get sued?

  Oops, I see Pole already stuck his neck out. Look out, Pole! The Watchtower machine's just getting oiled up on Quotes, they're coming after you next!

  Why, oh why did I ever leave God's Loving OneAndOnlyTrue Organization?

  Dave
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  Elsewhere

  I wonder if they realize just how STUPID of a move they did by making this a CD-ROM issue.

  Here is why:

  Several years ago a kid created a program that was able to read data from encrypted DVD's. The DVD industry sued the kid, but in doing so the source code of his application had to be entered into the court record as evidence. The result of this was that the program for copying DVDs became a matter of public record which meant that anyone could use the court documents to compile their own DVD copy program.

  If they submit the contents of the CD-ROM into evidence, they will effectively put the entire contents of the CD-ROM into the public forum. From that point on, anyone who uses text from the CD-ROM could defend themselves by saying that they were not quoting from the CD-ROM but were in fact quoting from the public court records.

  My advice to Quotes… if the WTS does not submit the entire contents of the CD-ROM as evidence, then YOU should. Time to warm up the ol' printer and put it to work!