Quotes site: Bible Quotes????

by ithinkisee 25 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  confusedjw

  Don't you know....................the purpose of all of it is to embarrass the WT.
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  Lady Lee

  I think it was Quotes who said that many active JWs have found the site to be extremely helpful to them in their studies. From what he said it sounded like they weren't looking for dirt on the WTS. Just doing some research.

  And if the WTS finds their own quotes embarrassing... well that just might mean they need to stick to the truth a wee bit more. OK a whole lot more
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  Abaddon

  ithinkisee

  What "might" someone find "significant" about them ...?

  Someone might find it significant that god, as described in the OT, is very often a misogynistic despot, who approves of the execution of people for working on the wrong day and the execution of minors. In additon the OT god has contrived and nonsensical dietary laws, no "equal rights" policy as regards the disabled, and is totally against cross-dressers, but in favour of tassles.

  Why do you have a big problem with those quotes being there? They're in every Bible. I don't know if you really "don't get it", or if you object to "god's word" being used rather effectively to lampoon god and "don't get it".

  :-)
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  Quotes

  Abaddon, your are very perceptive.
  
  As the provider of all this "raw information" it has always been my official policy to not draw conclusions for people. However, if I were speaking off the record, my words would be somewhat similar to yours, although perhaps not as concise.
  
  Don't be too hard on ithinkisee, he has a fair question, and opened the floor to opinions.
  
  I am certainly not the first person to wonder about these biblical passages. I can say that if I had a daughter that had been raped, I don't think I would be selling that daughter ("bride price") to the rapist as punishment. But maybe I'm just not that "scriptural", in the Old Testament sense of the word.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "Eat Grasshoppers, not Lobsters!!" class
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  dorayakii

  itis, dont you find all these quotes just a little stange??

  And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out.

  God advocates fathers selling their duaghteres as slaves

  a sabbath of complete rest to Jehovah. Anybody doing work on it will be put to death.

  The death penalty for working? A bit harsh no??

  No man of your seed throughout their generations in whom there proves to be a defect may come near to present the bread of his God. 18 In case there is any man in whom there is a defect, he may not come near: a man blind or lame or with his nose slit or with one member too long, 19 or a man in whom there proves to be a fracture of the foot or a fracture of the hand, 20 or hunchback or thin or diseased in his eyes or scabby or having ringworms or having his testicles broken.

  Surely a God who created everything should know that blind, lame or disabled people are not unclean... God seems here to be discriminating

  And here he is charging her with notorious deeds, saying: "I have found your daughter does not have evidence of virginity." Now this is the evidence of my daughter's virginity.' And they must spread out the mantle before the older men of the city.

  They spread out his daughter's virginity in front of the older men of the city?? WTF!!!

  "No man castrated by crushing the testicles or having his male member cut off may come into the congregation of Jehovah.

  Again, what is this rule for?... its all good and well to say "to keep Jehovah's organisation clean"... but clean from what exactly.. are these people physically or morally dirty??

  2 "No illegitimate son may come into the congregation of Jehovah. Even to the tenth generation none of his may come into the congregation of Jehovah.

  God doesnt punish the sons for the sins of the father... well, he does, but he only punishes 10 generations of the sinners offspring... 11 generations would be a bit too much...

  The WTS and most other fundamentalist religions conveniently forget or ignore these little scriptures... in fact sometimes they even excuse them, or say something like:

  "What did Jehovah really mean when he said that he'd mutilate and murder those who wear two fabrics interwoven?...... we need to remember that it is impossible for Jehovah to act unjustly. For him to do so would be unloving, and we know from our study of the Bible as a whole that God is love...... (bla-di-bla-blaa)...... Likely Jehovah may have seen some selfish, unclean motive in the hearts of people who wear two fabrics interwoven...... we can see then, that obviously this is to be viewed in a figurative way..."

  dorayakii - of the "admittedly a slightly embellished example" class
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  dorayakii

  DAAAYUM!!

  Ezekiel 23: 20

  And she kept lusting in the style of concubines belonging to those whose fleshly member is as the fleshly member of male asses and whose genital organ is as the genital organ of male horses.

  PUTS A WHOLE NEW SIGNIFICANCE TO THE EXPRESSION "HUNG LIKE A HORSE"!!!...
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  ithinkisee

  Alright ... I thought as much. I agree those scrips are pretty out there. For the record I don't have ANY problem with the scrips being there. I was just wondering if it was particularly a WT interpretation I was missing or if it was the bible in general. That's all.

  Thanks

  -ithinkisee
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  free2beme

  Good question. I never heard of the site, until it was mentioned on another thread. I too was wondering, why it was created? Was it for the purpose of promoting the Witness religion or for taking it down?
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  hubert

  the Christian witnesses of Jehovah are the best-oriented, happiest and most contented group of people on the face of the earth. They have the least need for psychiatrists.

  Avenger, I laughed so hard, I choked !!!! (cough...cough)

  Hubert
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  AK - Jeff

  Good question. I never heard of the site, until it was mentioned on another thread. I too was wondering, why it was created? Was it for the purpose of promoting the Witness religion or for taking it down?

  I would not presume to speak for Quotes here. But it seems to me that the intention of the site is honesty. Much of Watchtower doctrine, policy, and ethics, has been covered up or misrepresented in later Wt literature. The Quotes site might indeed have a share in the reality of the Wt religion being made known to those who wish to know the 'truth about the truth', but if it stands or falls is just a ripple in history. No one source of information will cause that to happen. Jeff