Hope for humanity (page 2)

OldSoul

lime05,

They have an explanation for that. They have an explanation for nearly anything you could bring up, given that you are just studying (I gather from your posts).

(1) They have no explanation for why they believe the Faithful and Discreet Slave is a class (or group) of people. (Matthew 24:45-47)

(2) They have no explanation for why they teach that God's Organization is spirit-directed when no organization in the Bible ever was.

(3) They have no explanation for claiming God uses the Faithful and Discreet Slave "Class" exclusively as a conduit for "new light" (that is, new teachings that may directly contradict old teachings)

(4) They have no explanation as to why they teach that the "other sheep" of John 10:16 have a different destiny from the ones already in the fold, although the Scripture specifically states that the two groups of sheep are from different sources but have the same destiny.

If you study any of these points well enough to raise it with a Witness, they will ask you if you have been reading "apostate" material. They do not mean material that is not supported by Scripture, they mean material from a source that no longer believes that Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth. There are hundreds more porblems with their doctrines than these four above, but these four form the entire basis for their organizational authority structure. None of these are based on Scripture.

Respectfully,
OldSoul

lime05

what they say does sound suspicous. ive read a number of their magazines. do the people who write the Awake and Watchtower magazines genuinely believe that jehovahs witnesses have the truth.

* w86 3/15 12-14 'Do Not Be Quickly Shaken From Your Reason' ***

Have No Dealings With Apostates

7 Now, what will you do if you are confronted with apostate teaching—subtle reasonings— claiming that what you believe as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses is not the truth? For example, what will you do if you receive a letter or some literature, open it, and see right away that it is from an apostate? Will curiosity cause you to read it, just to see what he has to say? You may even reason: ‘It won’t affect me; I’m too strong in the truth. And, besides, if we have the truth, we have nothing to fear. The truth will stand the test.’ In thinking this way, some have fed their minds upon apostate reasoning and have fallen prey to serious questioning and doubt. (Compare James 1:5-8.) So remember the warning at 1 Corinthians 10:12: “Let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.”

OldSoul

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Yes, I do think most Witnesses believe they have The Truth™. I think some of the ones who write the Watchtower and Awake! believe they have The Truth™.

I think some of the ones who write are terrified to let on that they know better. Fear prevents most Witnesses from questioning their dogma. There are a lot of religions like that.

OldSoul

lime05

they say that charles russel restored the gospel. were there people around the world who thought Gods name was jehovah before charles russel was born or did he start it all.

OldSoul

Yes, english speaking Churches have used the name Jehovah to refer to the deity for centuries. Not exclusively, but then, Jesus is never once recorded as using it...a point they fail to mention to students.

OldSoul

Where did you get the CD-Rom, if I may ask? I am having trouble figuring out whether you just started studying or whether you have been a Witness for decades. It seems like you want me to think you have just started studying, but new students don't get the CD. Are you baptized already?

Not that it matters, beyond the sorts of things I would want to share with you...

OldSoul

Es

welcome to the board....you will def enjoy reading many of the topics here

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lime05

I quote Oldsoul: (1) They have no explanation for why they believe the Faithful and Discreet Slave is a class (or group) of people. (Matthew 24:45-47)

What is the Faithful and Discreet slave if its not a class (or group) of people?

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