Posts by WuzLovesDubs

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More excrement in the fan

by outsmartthesystem in

jw
friends

well.....i am now officially on the precipice of divorce.

it started last tuesday night.

my wife brings the kids home at 10:00 pm after the meeting....then dinner....then ice cream.

About the whole depression thing...when I first DAd in 1997 I was reacting to the sudden loss of 13 years of friends and half of my inlaws to shunning. I was at the doctor with an upper respiratory infection and told her about the depression and the cause of it and she was both shocked and sympathic to me and gave me a script for...I think it was Xanax. However my marriage at that time had become immediately contentious with my JW husband now dragging our very young three kids to the meetings without me...playing the "Poor BrotherWithTheApostateWife" card to garner sympathy and help from all the single sisters who ran to help him take care of the children. Reallllly??? But I digress...he immediately took the fact that i was on medication for depression and wielded it as a weapon against me. "You go ahead and try to get custody! Im going to show the judge that you are a MENTALLY UNSTABLE PARENT and that I should get FULL CUSTODY! Just TRY it!"

So Im suggesting that you try to deal with your depression and what I perceive as your idea that you are helpless against this Organization and her and that you cant fight this....and try a better diet, exercise, reading...listening to music...whatever...besides doctors and meds to deal with this until any potential custody battles are done. I went to court with Duane Magnani in 1998 when he was representing a DFd JW man against his psycho JW wife to get 50/50 custody of his then 6 year old daughter. And Duane is the most hated lawyer the JWs have ever dealt with and an expert in JW/exJW custody cases. After all was said and done the judge said "You both need to grow up and stop dragging your child through this battle! You BOTH have the right to teach your children your beliefs, neither of you have the right to badmouth the other or cause a division between your child and her other parent! Therefore, you will share custody. 50/50 and neither of you will deny the visitation rights of the other or I will find you in contempt!"

Take copious notes of everything that is going on, dates, times, conversations, arguments, comments by the kids to you. They should definitely have an Ad Litem represent and question them about her undermining your position both as father and her brainwashing them against you which is alienation of affection.

It sounds like you are giving in to her and you arent going to garner sympathy from her because you are ill because from where she sits you deserve to be sick you deserve to be treated like shit because you "left Jehovah" so as my husband often said to me in the ensuing 15 years.."What did you expect? You made your choice so stop blaming everybody else for all the bad in your life. You brought this on yourself!" Followed by that sneering sarcastic superior snarky face that JWs give you when they are throwing their superiority complex in your face. You know the one.

Load your guns. Get back in there and stop being intimidated by this cult or she is gonna walk out the door with your kids.

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Proof of adultery no longer needed to be spiritually free to remarry

by WuzLovesDubs in

jw
friends

so this is what my soon to be ex says to me today...the same person who is courting wooing and flirting with a sister and has been for a very long time even way before i told him i wanted a divorce.

he tells me that they "dont spy on people any more to get proof" that my just telling him i did or him telling the elders that i did is "sufficient" for him to be free.

he also said hes not allowed to talk to said sister any more because she is "spiritually free" but not divorced yet!

WuzLovesDubs

Jgnat i actually suggested that at first because i didnt know he had a gf all lined up already. My step father in laws first wife did exactly that. Cake/eat/2. He was horrified at the thought of deceiving Jehovah like that. I even offered initially to write a letter than I had fornicated so that he could be free because I really did want him to go on....again that ship has sooooooo sailed.

He apparently thinks Jehoover doesnt see text messages, emails and hear cell phone calls. Or see the blatant flirting and connecting going on on the part of BOTH of these holier than thous and Im supposed to buy that he has concerns about deceiving God???? What about that scrip that says if you lust for a woman in your heart you are committing adultery? Thats from the GET GO for gods sake. And I guaranfucking tee that he is the gossipstock of that congregation, dragging our business through the titilation mill. Every single one of them knows he is married, she is too and they are on a very very slippery slope. Im disgusted with them both.

I cant stand to look at him. ugggghhhh

ps Im planning on moving far far away after the divorce and I think he panicked because he didnt know how he was going to get FREE if he couldnt spy on me...which I think lead to the question about whether the brothers still SPY on people. He was probably already seeing about getting somebody from the nearest congregation to where Im going to camp out on my lawn. Trust me when I say theyd be there a looooooooong time before theyd get ANYTHING because now Im seriously considering become a nun.

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Proof of adultery no longer needed to be spiritually free to remarry

by WuzLovesDubs in

jw
friends

so this is what my soon to be ex says to me today...the same person who is courting wooing and flirting with a sister and has been for a very long time even way before i told him i wanted a divorce.

he tells me that they "dont spy on people any more to get proof" that my just telling him i did or him telling the elders that i did is "sufficient" for him to be free.

he also said hes not allowed to talk to said sister any more because she is "spiritually free" but not divorced yet!

WuzLovesDubs

NC Im disassociated since 1997 and the dubs have been trying to hook him up since two minutes after it was announced.

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Proof of adultery no longer needed to be spiritually free to remarry

by WuzLovesDubs in

jw
friends

so this is what my soon to be ex says to me today...the same person who is courting wooing and flirting with a sister and has been for a very long time even way before i told him i wanted a divorce.

he tells me that they "dont spy on people any more to get proof" that my just telling him i did or him telling the elders that i did is "sufficient" for him to be free.

he also said hes not allowed to talk to said sister any more because she is "spiritually free" but not divorced yet!

WuzLovesDubs

Thank you for the above. Can I get a clearer and more complete version of the shepherding book info? looks like its missing things. does it deal with the unbelieving mate being the accused?

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Proof of adultery no longer needed to be spiritually free to remarry

by WuzLovesDubs in

jw
friends

so this is what my soon to be ex says to me today...the same person who is courting wooing and flirting with a sister and has been for a very long time even way before i told him i wanted a divorce.

he tells me that they "dont spy on people any more to get proof" that my just telling him i did or him telling the elders that i did is "sufficient" for him to be free.

he also said hes not allowed to talk to said sister any more because she is "spiritually free" but not divorced yet!

WuzLovesDubs

So this is what my soon to be ex says to me today...the same person who is courting wooing and flirting with a sister and has been for a very long time even way before i told him i wanted a divorce. He tells me that they "dont spy on people any more to get proof" that my just telling him I did or him telling the elders that I did is "sufficient" for him to be free. He also said hes not allowed to talk to said sister any more because she is "spiritually free" but not divorced yet! And he was told it was inappropriate by the elders. Reallly? It took the ELDERS having to tell him that for him to STOP doing it? Or for him to f*king know it was inappropriate to basically CHEAT??? Hypocrite!!!

Any elders out there have proof of the change to this "proof" policy?? Any have proof that it has NOT changed?

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What I am most ashamed of.........

by Xanthippe in

is not giving to charity while a jw.

this whole 'lets sit back and wait for jehovah to sort the world out while we do nothing' really gets to me.

there is so much to be done in this world, so many people doing good things but the jws just say bang on doors and sell watchtowers.. i did plenty of voluntary work in the jws pioneering my youth away but it was all so useless, now i do voluntary work to help people who want to be helped, as well as my job.

WuzLovesDubs

honey dont beat yourself up. when you know better you do better. and you are more than making up for it now. leave your past and love your future.

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Watchtower honors Jehovah's Witness Elders responsible for Candice Conti and Menlo Park Fiascos

by Balaamsass in

this weekend was the convention for the southern san francisco bay area.

it was held at the santa clara convention center in the silicon valley http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/ which is an improvement over the old s.f.

cow palace which is still used..just not as much.

WuzLovesDubs

I see this kind of action as a "getting back on the horse" and "dont let em see you sweat" kinda move. These guys would probably love to hide and so the Society says oh HELL no you get out there and show your sorry faces! We arent taking the hit for you. We arent going to hide you because you are too embarrassed to get out there. You cost us $23million and so we OWN you BITCHES! To not use them would indicate acceptance of guilt IMHO.

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What Proof Is There That Rutherford Was Responsible For The Pyramid Monument Near CTR's Grave?

by JWB in

what proof is there that rutherford was responsible for the pyramid monument near ctr's grave?.

"charles taze russell died in 1916, the pyramid marker was installed in 1921 (5 years after his death), and the the masonic temple was built in the mid 1990s, these items have nothing to do with pastor russell's grave.

the masonic temple is not even on the cemetery grounds, it is a different property altogether.

WuzLovesDubs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UlVs2DqPFXA

very interesting video regarding this...undeniable facts

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A sure sign the End is Near....

by King Solomon in

the end of the month, that is, and someone apparently needs to get their hours in.... this resourceful jw (in the left side of the photo) set up shop for a few hours outside a local starbucks, with a wt and awake laid out on a table.

and i i don't think he talked to anyone the whole time he was out there (a few hours).. sure beats all that walking from door-to-door, which would likely result in a bunch of not-at-homes on a weekday: most people are at work.. (i approached him when entering, and asked him about the parable of faithful and "discreet" slave, and asked him what he thought the difference was between a parable and prophecy.

after getting a non-answer (that basically meant he didn't know), i wished him a good morning and went on my way.... .

WuzLovesDubs

When my son was in 5th grade raising money to go to washington dc, we were stationed with permission outside a food store with a table and candy for sale. every day we were there there was a jw sitting on the bench near us with a mag sitting on top of his book bag. i never once saw him speak to anyone. he watched his watch closely and was picked up at precisely four pm every afternoon. he actually looked relieved that nobody spoke to him but his countenance was anything BUT approachable or friendly for the four hours he sat there...no one was saved by THAT pioneer. I hope actually that ALL pioneers are as enthsiastic as he was LOL!

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A Way That May Reach Our JW Friends And Family

by JamesThomas in

jw
friends

understandably, there are times when a caring jw family member may question us as to why we have turned away from jehovah.

why do we no longer love and follow him as they still do.

here is an honest and sincere way that i answer.

WuzLovesDubs

ApostaZ I love that quote! Does he have one about who God becomes in the NT? Like...overnight He becomes this wonderful loving forgiving compassionate...mass of gas or...... :)

Reaching our families IMHO cant come with any kind of reasoning. Something has to happen to shake the ground underneath their individual feet and it cant come from anybody who left. For me it was the GBoobies changing the definition of the Generation again...in 1994 or 1995 I forget now...taking away the hope of the end coming when their generation died. It was the straw. It was the opening of the floodgates. And then everything else I heard or read after that until I DAd in 1997 was seen through jaded glasses.