I find no scripture that supports your assertion that God predestinated the reprobate.
Romans 9:17
For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH."
OK, when shown this scripture before you said " it means to glorify Gods name"
Then I pressed you futher, and you reply:
It seems to me you cannot except that Pharoah was "predestined" foreordained, whatever, to do a specific thing for God.
Oh, I can do that alright (predestinate and/or foreordain), as per my comments on Acts, to DDog.
My ONLY issue is concerning God's predestining people to reprobation.
Am I missing something here? Pharoah was in everyway a reprobate was he not? Are you afraid to entertain the thought that God designed this Pharoah for this very purpose?
How much more reprobate can one be, by Pharoahs actions? Or Judas, Esau?
Romans 9:18
So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.
At what point in creation will you explain to me, does God do the hardening of the reprobate as you would have it.
Maybe I've picked you up wrong, but that appears to be the God that you are describing to me as your own.
I'm afraid that the "mercy" that is evidenced by such a God appears only to be skin deep, since it would seem there's an ulterior motive that has little to do with compassion at all.
Perhaps, Then I give you:
Romans 9:19
You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?"
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On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it?
What are the principalities and powers spoken of in Colossians? They cannot just be the good attributes that come to mind first while reading the passage.
You're wandering into other scriptures, now, but I agree with you in principle.
Well then, what are the principalities? And why would you agree in principle? (the wandering is trying to show a point)
What does "everything made that was made" include in John chapter one. Again this cannot just be the nice little things in life.
I agree. Once more, though, you attempt to put words in my mouth. I'd rather you didn't do that, thanks. But once more I also state that you need to be careful where you lay the blame for certain actions.
Sorry you feel that way.
IMHO This has nothing to do with attempting to insert words, by conclusion you end up facing a dilema, did God create the bad things too? And how far reaching is this? And your reply will be ??
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