Posts by umbertoecho

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Whatever happened to Applewhite's "report"?

by OrphanCrow in

do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.

the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.

funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.

umbertoecho

Orpan, I've been looking for it too. It is nowhere to be found. I wonder if they just dumped her as too "incredible for belief". I recall her defeated expression at the end of Angus Stewarts probing investigation regarding her credentials.

From that point on the game was completely lost. He "expertness" was deflated, she could hardly wait to get off that chair. I'll just bet she was furious at WT for putting in such a bad position. I'm speculating of course, but I have watched it a few times and it never ceases to amaze me that she was so ill prepared. Her testimony never got off the ground.

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Cedars leaked letter requested to be taken down by WTBTS

by umbertoecho in

i don't know if this is already posted so sorry people if it is.

cedars site has had a request to take down the leaked letter regarding changes to the theocratic ministry school and other issues.. the reason given by wt is that it is a "copyright" issue.

of course this validates the letters authenticity even more.. have a good day or night people.

umbertoecho

I don't know if this is already posted so sorry people if it is. Cedars site has had a request to take down the leaked letter regarding changes to the Theocratic Ministry School and other issues.

The reason given by WT is that it is a "copyright" issue. Of course this validates the letters authenticity even more.

Have a good day or night people

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Removal of Tetragrammaton from Early Greek Manuscripts

by jhine in

a while ago i posted on another thread that i had been told by some witnesses that the tetragrammaton had been in the original christian greek scriptures but had been removed when apostacy came into the church .

i did not know where this came from at the time .however while looking something else up i came across this .as i could not find the original thread i have started a new one .here is a quote from nwt reference edition 1984 :-.

" matthew made more than a hundred quotations from the inspired hebrew scriptures.

umbertoecho

Thanks for all that information people. I had no idea that three letters were the sum total of what I thought was the Tetragrammaton. Question. What does the name or expression Trismegistus mean, does it not mean "thrice greatest"? Could this have anything to do with Christ?

This is not a well-put question, but it is the best I can do in trying to find out where this expression came from and how it relates to the Tetragrammaton.

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Need some links to pro-jw sites that mention, bethel lay offs and the leaked letter. thanks

by joe134cd in

hi everyone i need some links to pro-jw sites that mention the letter to be read out and also about the bethel lay offs .

can be face book or anything as long as it's for jehovahs kingdom, but mentions those 2 things.

thanks guys.

umbertoecho

That site is virtually impossible to join without including a blood sample for DNA. They want to know far too much and I think that alone is outright intrusive. It's delusional at the very least, they sound manic at times when admiring this or that GB speaker. I don't think any site that is purely discussion based, has the right to force such intimate details out of a person.

My passport No was requested by an elder to establish my identity. Think I'm kidding?

I'm not! This was at the local congregation just prior to my expected baptism. It was to establish that I was who I said I was. Bloody hell, what loving trusting people......

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Happy Birthday,JW Facts

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

happy birthday,paul.have a great day.. bangalore.

umbertoecho

Happy Birthday to you Paul. Have a good one.

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Please stop deriding the Governing Body.

by Esse quam videri in

please stop it !!!.

we love them.

we all love them.

umbertoecho

Esse quam videri
Sure. I'll stop being disgusted with them when they man up about their FDS denial as heard from G Jacksons own lying mouth at the Australian Royal Commission. Have a good look at this man's lying, lack of sincerity, transparency etc...

The way he wriggled out of an honest and direct answer to the FDS and gods mouth piece on earth. Look it up on your WT CD be it 2011 or 2012, 8,000 hits on the subject that they are the FDS, over 2,000 on the GB being that FDS and a direct channel for Jehovah. And, that's just using their Watchtower study magazines and the one they promote to the public. They are the ones slamming God's name.

Are you not supposed to love God and Christ rather than men? You have become caught up in creature worship

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Unwitnessing Calmly To JW Cart People Yesterday

by Watchtower-Free in

talked for about 45 minutes with 2 cart people .

daniel wiebe (his vid) emily, and myself (csf) .

caught them lying 4x on very important topics.

umbertoecho

Nice approach, you were well spoken and gained some good information, while imparting some clues for them to follow, plus the use of similar religions beliefs was non confronting and smart.

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Right everyone watch this video its insane!

by username in

i'm just watching this video.

now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

umbertoecho

Petraglyph: Thank you go it and saved it. I agree that this man made some honest mistakes, on the whole I think he is valid and I for one always like to follow the money with WT inc. I loved it when I found elders with huge shares in .....get this.....Elders and West Farmers to name a few. They deal in farms, equipment, fertilizers etc. I found this by accident and just couldn't help it. I had to read all of it. There are so many witnesses, particularly elders that are given little tips, advice etc as to where to invest. It's quite the thing. Of course, officially they are not to store up "treasures" here on earth as they are to await heavenly ones or something like that....

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Right everyone watch this video its insane!

by username in

i'm just watching this video.

now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

umbertoecho

GMOs from Forbes.

DJS. Go ahead and tell me how not dangerous GM food are. Please don't spout off at the mouth before you can supply good counter-evidence because I can give you some that should shut your arrogant mouth up. Got shares in them?

Look up GM crops India, there, that's a little homework for you. Go ahead. Now if you can process anything you read. Have a nice little read on the insertion of genomes from pigs that are also put into certain GM produce....

You really need to read some decent literature, then write it out with your little graphite pen on your slate, then do some memorising of facts. I suspect you know jack shit about this topic.

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Right everyone watch this video its insane!

by username in

i'm just watching this video.

now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

umbertoecho

Lockheed the creators of war equipment, training etc and all based in Australia. Never knew that! Very flash looking company, and not some dithery type of business, for their business is about the benefits of war.