Posts by umbertoecho

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News flash - ex-Bethelites protest Watchtower headquarters- Governing Body flees

by Esse quam videri in

pandemonium broke out at the headquarters of the watchtower bible and track society as hundreds of former bethel workers protested being released from their assignments and told to vacate the premises.

the governing body members barely escaped the wrath of the mob, some without the shirt on their backs.

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umbertoecho

Awesome!!

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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

by OrphanCrow in

deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

umbertoecho

Rod Spinks

Orphan! You spelllededed that all wrorngly.......It's Rod Sphinckte mucscler. Please get yoor spellink under control.

Nice to see you. Hope you are well.

Juliette.

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The worst happens.

by Vetro in

say, a woman is going in for colon surgery, it is already known by most of her doctors she has several pychiatric illnesses, along with more than several medications for it, it's also obvious she's a bit slow and not very good at understanding concepts, she's a jw baptized, her husband is baptized, used to be a elder and is no longer practicing, the wife refuses blood, but the husband seems anxious, unnerved about this, he realizes something isn't right about the wt, but can't quite break free, he doesn't want her to die if she need something like blood, but can't convince the wife, the rest of her family will be there, all ex witnesses including her children and mother who was a witness, she signs the form refusing blood.

during surgery the worst happens, she starts bleeding, it doesn't stop, it gets bad enough even volume expanders won't keep her barely alive.

will the surgeon just let her die without alert the family what is happening and maybe keep his oath to protect life and perhaps allow a chance at her husband to make a decision to allow a transfusion, or will he just let her die as her deluded wishes dictate and tell the family afterwards?

umbertoecho

Oh no. I'm so sorry Vetro. Truly sorry. As I read this post I realised it was going to be some awful reality being dished up. I don't know what to say, except....I'll keep your name in my head as I go and drag my own nephew out of his pithy lodgings in a minute.

Very sorry. I have to go right now. I will think of you hard though.

xxx Juliette

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Hey you! Murderers you!

by umbertoecho in

hello, people, fellow freaks, thinkers, out-raged ones.

this is about my lovely wonderful brain dead jw sister and her equally piss weak jw husband and how they treat their own son.

my nephew!!.

umbertoecho

I know Anthony very well. He has a loving mother but because she is over weight he is disgusted with her. He is very image driven and was always envious of the skills my nephew had. Other JWs are very aware of this man's style and the way he has been inserting himself into the empty slot that should belong to J.

Just thought you should know this guy is really slick and very inclined to gloat over the misfortune of others. Anthony is so in love with himself that he can barely pass a mirror without gazing in it. He is 39. Old enough I would say, to get the hell on with his own life instead of ingratiating himself with my Bro-Inlaw and sister. Fancy being a JW and hating one's mother or father because they don't measure up in the looks department!

I know for a fact that he plays both sides of life. The religious and likeable Jehovah's witness guy looking for the 10/10 sister who will compliment his inflated ego.

He then goes home and hooks up onto the porn. I don't give a rats "A" about the porn, I care about the slyness, the two faced little creep. Then he goes preaching! Yay!

I caught him on the computer and he nearly fell off of his chair trying to close everything down. "Too late mate, I saw your preference there, what is it now, 44 cc, 23-inch waist, blond one day, red hair the next". He hates me and I feel all fluffy about that, because if he did like me, it would indicate a serious flaw in my basic nature.

I think WT could rake in the dough by Advertising a Trade in your disappointing son or daughter, and well get yourself a brand new family. "" A Perfect Child, for the Perfect JW model"... Terms and conditions apply, please send a cheque to..blah blah blah... or use Visa. Price to be announced at the Specials Meeting!!

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What is your purpose or what do you wish to accomplish while a member of this board?

by Tenacious in

jw
friends

when i joined this forum i was seeking more people who felt the same way i did in terms of seeing the jehovah's witness organization for what it truly was; a false prophet.. once i found like-minded members i slowly started to open up and participate more in trying to help others that were also exiting mentally and physically.

today, i offer support to anyone who desires it regardless of what they believe or not believe.. so what is your purpose on this board?.

support?

umbertoecho

I came here to see if I was going insane. I was. Then I found out that there were equally insanely funny people here, clever people, hurt people......and so on.

Then I realised it was a very safe place to tell it like it really is. No one was going to censor me for caring.

Support, some new friends and interesting posts..........I could go on. I hope to help someone out, perhaps quite a few in time.

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Hey you! Murderers you!

by umbertoecho in

hello, people, fellow freaks, thinkers, out-raged ones.

this is about my lovely wonderful brain dead jw sister and her equally piss weak jw husband and how they treat their own son.

my nephew!!.

umbertoecho

Hello, people, fellow freaks, thinkers, out-raged ones.

This is about my lovely wonderful brain dead JW sister and her equally piss weak JW husband and how they treat their own son. My nephew!!

I don't think he is going to live more than a few months unless a miracle happens.

He was/is a truly gifted musician with a voice like satin or gravel. His pitch was incredibly varied from the lowest note to the highest. He can play the guitar, is brilliant when playing the electric violin and was going places. His band were signed up with EMI for recordings and a plan to promote them overseas.

He was born in and raised in, this freak of a religion and I saw one of the thrashings he received from his father at the age of two. It was a practice of the father, to put him in front of the television in order to teach him to sit for an hour without moving from the spot. He was two years of age. I swear to god I did not expect what was to happen the minute that baby tried to stand up. His father came bolting in and hit him so hard he was just one big red welt. That baby was hit all over. Horrifically, he did not cry. I was stunned at the suddenness of this beating. Caught completely off guard as I had no sense this was about to happen.

Brother in law said it was necessary to do this to teach him to sit still at the meetings. the look on his face was cold, unemotional, almost impassive.

(hang on, gotta get up I'm shaking with rage, going out for a smoke) .........okay back.

This was the standard that was set in concrete for the rest of his young life and into the pre-teens. "Spare the rod and spoil the child".

I had little to do with my JW family from then on for some time as I was off to other parts of Australia and getting on with life. He grew up with his gifts, in spite of this ugly discipline and the heavy burden of WT doctrine force-fed daily, weekly yearly down his throat. Years later, I came back into their lives due to various factors. By then I had my own children ( they grew into beautiful young women )

He was now baptized, went to all meetings and sublimated his character to the almighty WT and his parents, he did all he could to be better, good, spiritual. He wanted them to love him. He tried to "not play" his ungodly music, but it was a part of him.

Eventually, he was disfellowshipped for doing his worldly gigs and attracting females. He always attended the meetings, though, he was consistent and believed in all the doctrines, whilst sitting alone in the back of the bloody hall and being shunned by all those whom he grew up with. And so time passed, and whenever I did have contact with "them", they said all was good in their world that the other son was just perfect and was devoted witness and going to be an elder. The other son was just a bad person who had thrown away a perfect future offered to him via WT and Co.

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I went to see my sister today. I took her shopping and took her home. It was all so civil I felt like smoking a cigar and tossing back some scotch right out of the bottle, while blasting her ears to hell with MY UNHOLY MUSIC. Back at her place now, horrible husband there and I'm still behaving..............Until, this young "brother" turned up. I tell you, he has stolen my nephews rightful place, has changed his looks to mirror my nephew. I said..." So, you're trying to look like thier son now, hey? You even dyed your hair I see. Wow, it almost works, but you'll never be J."

" Show me a photo of J" This aimed at my sister. " What in the hell are you doing?! When was this taken? He's dying, I should know I've lost my Emma, and so many people I've mentored. Why is he not in hospital, why is it you have hidden this from me?!!"

Sister " Oh well, he just doesn't want help" Me: " Because he's bloody sick, too sick to know how sick he is. He is dangerously depressed and definately suicidal you fool!" Brother in law exits with his new "spiritual son" to another room. Me: "I want his address right now and his number". Sister: " Don't go there too early, he won't be awake". Me: "One day soon, he will never wake up again, he's overdosing on booze and pills. So no, I won't listen to you. I'll kick the door in and drag him out!"

Me: "Is that creep Anthony your surrogate son now?" I was talking, but a bit aggressively and this caught her off her gaurd...."Yes he is" She said with a beatific smile. "Well good on you guys for killing your son off, for murdering his hopes, gifts and his fucking life!! Enjoy pretending playing happy families with that pornographic pervert, brother Anthony".

My nephew is so thin I hardly recognise him. This has happened in two months, he can't eat,shakes all over. He vomits constantly, is doctor shopping big time. He is failing rapidly and still goes to the meetings where he is shunned. He has been doing this for ages and they hid it from all the perfect witnesses. I came home and called the elder, but got the wife and let rip,I really let her know how sick this is. I called it a slow and deliberate murder.

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Is Watchtower beginning to buckle

by Truthexplorer in

is wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?

heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.

the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!

umbertoecho

I really bloody hope so after what I saw today!!

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This morning's magazine trolley encounter..

by GodZoo in

was just out shopping and came across two middle aged female witnesses with their magazine trolley..

i approached them and they were all glee and smiles and ready to hand me a couple of magazines.

one moment ladies i have just a couple of questions..

umbertoecho

That number has climbed to about 5,000 now. Abused that is.

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Cedars leaked letter requested to be taken down by WTBTS

by umbertoecho in

i don't know if this is already posted so sorry people if it is.

cedars site has had a request to take down the leaked letter regarding changes to the theocratic ministry school and other issues.. the reason given by wt is that it is a "copyright" issue.

of course this validates the letters authenticity even more.. have a good day or night people.

umbertoecho

If a corporation requests you take something leaked...........down. It validates the veracity of the leaked item. Just as within a week or so of the Guardian revealing the UN connection........the WTBTS was off the list as fast as it could get off. This is self-implicating behavior. Can you see this? I can.

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Churches in Australia could lose millions in tax breaks under radical national faith register plan

by sherrie11 in

churches and religious organisations would lose millions of dollars in tax breaks, concessions and hand outs under a radical plan to force priests, rabbis and imams to sign up to a national faith register.

under the bold proposal clergy would for the first time be forced to undergo government-specified training and security checks and would be monitored by a national body, or risk losing government funding..

former premier ted baillieu has backed the plan that has been put to federal and state leaders including the prime ministers office, and premier daniel andrews..

umbertoecho

“A key element of such a strategy would be for an independent and external body to grant registration to members of the clergy conditional on their adhering to a set of professional standards,” he said.

Village Idiot. What is it that you don't like about this proposal? Is it not a way of ensuring that people measure up to a certain standard of competence in thier chosen life calling. It could be teaching literature, caring for the disabled, and also an accountability for those who may profess to be in teacher or carer mode for ones spiritual growth and safety. It is pointless to complain about a problem then complain when a solution is presented.