If Genesis Account is allegorical, why was there a need of ransom sacrifice--murdering own son for the benefit of those who have disobeyed God--something that, God Himself says, has " never even crossed my mind "? Jeremiah 19:5
exWTslave
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Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real (shows the way to JWs?)
by exWTslave inpope thus admits that every verse of the bible is not literally inspired.
it is like a story that is built to awaken the readers to some principles (not to educate the readers the historicity with all the minute details).. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html.
if gb is wise enough, they can come out of the mess they have gone into, making use of this opportunity that pope has opened saying bible is not to be taken literally.
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Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real (shows the way to JWs?)
by exWTslave inpope thus admits that every verse of the bible is not literally inspired.
it is like a story that is built to awaken the readers to some principles (not to educate the readers the historicity with all the minute details).. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html.
if gb is wise enough, they can come out of the mess they have gone into, making use of this opportunity that pope has opened saying bible is not to be taken literally.
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exWTslave
Pope thus admits that every verse of the Bible is not literally inspired. It is like a story that is built to awaken the readers to some principles (not to educate the readers the historicity with all the minute details).
If GB is wise enough, they can come out of the mess they have gone into, making use of this opportunity that Pope has opened saying Bible is not to be taken literally. It is high time that JWs should switch to preaching like that of Joyce Mayar who stresses on good living rather than harping on mistakes of others!
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Interpolated portions of the Bible are responsible for JW mistakes and arrogance
by exWTslave inbible is a mixture of truth and untruth.
(jeremiah 7:22; 8:8; act 20:28-30) everything that falls in harmony with our experience is truth.
for example, every action has equal and opposite reaction.
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exWTslave
Very nice. You really increased my knowledge!
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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exWTslave
You ask for evidence for the assertion that there is a god and he/it prefers to not communicate with us?
Here are they:
1) Most the religions only give massage to our ego (which is just opposite to spirituality) presenting God as an instrument for getting material benefits!
2) Religions are more of divisive than unifying (which is opposed to One God, One Family concept)
3) Religious founders have said many things which contradict others—hence God has not communicated with them. So are the case with Scriptures
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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exWTslave
You ask: “What if I choose to make my life my message by doing evil for the sake of evil, because that's what makes my life more meaningful and enjoyable. Wouldn't I still be godlike?”
You know very well that you are asking for the sake of asking, and you also know the answer—because the whole world is saturated with experiences of people who have been doing what you ask. What did people call Hitler, Bin Laden …. “godlike?” Doing evil for the sake of doing evil has been tried by the majority, and we all know the results—resistance from all sides, hence has nothing to do with the article I wrote where in I highlighted the example of God doing good for the sake of goodness, and yet keeping Himself away as to seek no glory and gratitude from us. This is what is to be tested—because very few people have understood its benefits.
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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exWTslave
Such details are not my focus. Question is His existence and His style of funcitioning!
Consciousness (or God) can never be studied by a reductionist approach. The ability to reduce everything to simple fundamental laws, does not imply the ability to start from those laws and reconstruct the universe. Consciousness is more an emergent phenomenon wherein, the whole is not merely more, but very different from the sum of its parts.
Cognition presupposes duality, that is, a subject becoming conscious of an object or its own self. Self-awareness, we would presume, mandates a form, a discrete entity. However, consciousness as a state of awareness, an am-ness can exist in the absence of any form, or attribute.
There is no visible difference between two men sitting at a table and having a coffee if one is Self-aware and the other is not. So yes, why would we want to know ourselves? Because we must, because there is no God beyond awareness of God, and no man beyond awareness of man, regardless of choice of belief, if we do not make the effort to add awareness to belief, no one else will and no one else can. No one else can live for us, die for us or awaken for us, and awakening the most essential outcome of Self-awareness is not seen. It sees, and this clarifies the problem. Why, in a material world, should we give value, to invisible goods?
From the ancient Egyptian: "Man, know thyself", to the oft quoted Delphic maxim: "Know thyself", we have been advised for millennia to strive for Self-knowledge and Selfawareness because in the absence of these augmentations, it matters not who we are because we are not. Nor does it matter what will happen after death because we have not lived. And it matters not whether God is or is Self-aware or not or aware of us personally, because there is not enough enlightenment in us to know the difference. Enlightenment, awakening, mindfulness higher states all imply that identity beyond the physical world exists without mass, that such identity has no name, no home, no possessions and no need of life as we know it. For this reason awareness has value and is not given value.
Yes, we do believe in God, through multiple faiths for thousands of years. But for most of us belief is physical and i-centred. We are ego-driven and our opinions fixed in our ego like stones in cement. We are more unaware than aware, less like God and more like man. But we can change!
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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exWTslave
Now to add to the down-to-earth simple thing mentioned above, let us take something subtle:
For centuries, it was thought that science was opposed to God because it believed in materialistic reducibility. In this view, minds or consciousness, for instance, could be reduced to being a manifestation of the biological working of the brain based on the chemistry of nerve cells that were governed by laws laid down by physics. And physics, of course, could be reduced to matter and its interactions. Nothing missing. But quantum physics has now ushered in this enormous amount of uncertainty in matter that can only be resolved with the interaction of a mind on it.
In other words, if the human mind transcends matter to some extent, could there not exist minds that transcend the physical universe altogether. And might there not even exist an ultimate Mind?
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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exWTslave
Glory of Creator is that He has given us life and life-support systems to enjoy the life to the full. Yet He does’nt want any glory for that nor thanks from us—hence HE REMAINS AWAY. That means His life (or style of functioning) itself is the message (making all communication—oral or written unnecessary). Both atheists and theists alike make capital out of this style of God’s functioning--atheists declaring there is no God, and theists saying all sorts of non-sense about God!
Now you try the same life-style—make your life your message—doing good for the sake of goodness. Thus put this to the test, as the scientists ALWAYS do!
You will find your life becoming more and more meaningful and enjoyable!
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Top Scientist descent from Creationism
by Coded Logic inhttp://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=25.
http://www.nas.edu/evolution/intelligentdesign.html.
http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-intelligent-design-theory.
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exWTslave
There are people who refuse to go beyond their senses can go--no matter how prominent scientists they are. But what would happen to their own existence if they happen to be in front of somebody whose senses do not work? Will their very existence not be in question in front of such a person?