Posts by Skeptical78

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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Skeptical78

Thank u londo111 the explanation on what the new light is. Much appreciated.

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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Skeptical78

Wasn't the July 15th study edition all about the new light and how it is different to the previously held thought?

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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its very hard for me to just say they're batshit crazy. I am not blind to what they're doing & have done but when being raised to believe something and never having it clearly disproved makes it hard. I am looking of proof and evidence of a lie. I am definitely doing my research. The issue I want to prove to my mum is that the new light on blood is not new light, because I'm very sure that they have allowed some type of substitute then banned it and then allowed it again... My mum is adamant that they have only adjusted the methods of treatment according to newer medical discoveries.

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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Skeptical78

Also the research you've done on the fall is awesome!! Thank you. However isn't it ALL redundant when the actual date if 1914 came about from a measurement of Gods stone witness... Excuse me... The satanically inspired pyramid of Giza ?

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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Skeptical78

I haven't mastered how to reply directly but thanks got the fonze vid. Very funny! :). Thank you for all your responses I am reading avidly

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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Skeptical78

Thank you for all ur welcomes. My story? It's really not that interesting. I was the only child of mixed race in a single parent white family, my mum hooked up with the jw wen I was about 6, I remember the meetings field service and nightmares I had every night about Armeggeddon, because I still played with my school friends rather than be bullied and if I got slapped I slapped back, it was my nature, I remember being spanked a lot because I said what I thought and I remember never really understanding anything but knowing how to explain it, i was very interested at that young age in the spiritual things and I was most intrigued by the 144,000. I remember studying the revelation book the first time it came out I think my mum was disfellowshipped not long after that... Anyway during one bible study I asked innocently how the anointed know they are so I was told its a personal experience & they just know, and I said something like I could be one of them & I was laughed at & told no no no ur not one of them. so I asked how could he know since it's a personal experience, and only I and God would know... I still have no answer it was very amusing to the study group that I could be so silly to think I a little black girl could have a heavenly hope... Note I'm not a racist but you will see my point about race soon... Anyway my brother was baptized at 11/12 & I was being pressurized but I couldnt do it, at that point I didn't know what the unforgivable sin was but I assumed it was leaving the jw after baptism I.e being disfellowshipped... & i couldn't dedicate myself to something I did not understand... So my mum left because she was participating in worldly activities with other sisters (party) and after a few months of uncles & aunts coming to collect us for meetings we were left to our own devices. The elders visited my bro but didn't give a toss about me because I wasnt baptized and so I guess I didn't affect their statistics... So I went into the world feeling as though I didn't quote helier the wt but what if... I lived in fear of every war report political upheaval lightening bolt thunder clap... It's ridiculous the amount of fear and self-loathing that permeated my teenage life... I was 12/13 wen my mum left and I immeidiatly rebelled, had a beautiful daughter when I was 16 & then worried my baby would die to... Then I started to look for God... I started some research on the wt... A lot of the old prophecy and ridiculous occult methods of attaining doctrine & support is diabolical!!! so much stuff... Anyway my mum went back and is a wheelchair bound publisher at 65 years of age. It's ridiculous... She's not well! However she will hear not a word said against her beloved wt society and relies on them for her food at the proper time. It breaks my heart to see the level if brainwashing. I guess I'm here to see if I can finally show her some truth based on their own publications as she refuses to read anything non wt. As Jesus said " by their own words let them be condemned.... Getting back to the race thing... It's an accepted fact that Jesus and his counterparts were not white & definitely not white Jewish. However nowhere in ANY wt publications are ANY of the men of old depicted as black... Race doesn't matter but when we have a world full of a mixture of races is it not offensive that the wt through its illustrations shows all non whites that they have no place in Gods kingdom? That they are not in scripture unless ur Ham or the Eunuch... If race isn't an issue why are there no pictures of black bible characters??? Lastly just as an opinion. My life became so pointless I had no desire to plan for tomorrow it's only now after 30 years of recovery that I realise Armeggdon isn't coming. Not for now anyway. Also the wt must see that now after three studies of revelation to firmly implant the knowledge in jw head that now the book needs rewriting? Id feel cheated if I'd have sat down for all those hours underlining n reading the same scriptures over n over again just to be told oh no... That's been moved into the future. also how have they explained the fact that they've been wrong for over a decade because saying something has happened and then saying it hasn't are two opposing statements one is true & one is false. They cannot both be proven right. Responding active jw's, don't you get that?

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Free to Believe, Leave? or be Shunned? other examples of WT Reps "lying" to Public?

by cha ching in

if you think you can go to the wt and ask for a "straight answer" .... think again..... .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gipomx7wnyy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html.

Skeptical78

Wow... I was brought up from age 5 as a witness I recieved pressure at 11 to become baptized but at that young age I knew I wasn't sure I could be a part of something I didn't really understand. My mum was disfellowshipped so obviously after a few months of "aunts & uncles" collecting me & my baptized 15 year old brother I just stopped going. They didn't really bother to hold on to me as I was an extroverted and mischievous child. No worse than your average precocious little girl who wanted to be an actress/singer when she grew up, i had to much expression for them. I voiced my opinions and I asked intelligent questions, I remember shutting down a bible study when I asked how the 144,000 know they're anointed. They had no answer save "it's a personal experience they just know" so I asked if I had a personal experience I would just know also then? I was TOLD " oh no you're not one of the anointed" so I asked but how do you know if it's my personal experience. My mum was nudging me at this point and everyone laughed at me... I love God so much but I never felt like I would have all my questions answered by any man in that organisation. Since leaving though I always held the impression that I had left Gods only spirit directed organisation and therefore I and my beautiful illegitimate miracle if a baby would die. For 19 years I've fretted about every lightening bolt and thunderclap!! Then I started researching the organisations past!!!! I was physically sick. Now wen I see things like this I feel so sorry for my nan who has been a witness for over 60 years... And u can feel the ice cold heart in her, she can barely stand to touch me... And my mum who went back got reinstated I think even baptized again and who thoroughly believes she has salvation with them!! I really want to show her the reality but obviously she refuses to read anything non-organisational and I would love if someone could help me with research regarding their going backwards and forwards on doctrine... She always talks of new light etc... I always say that if new light is that then the old teaching becomes obsolete, you can't say its blue today then no it's green tomorrow then say no actually it was blue all along. Also this issue of spirit direction. It's a blatant fact that they have told ALL newbies that they're organisation is the Only one that has gods blessing, that their literature is Given from the Holy Spirit because they are the FADS, so to deny it is not just a BIG FAT LIE, it also means that they are no more blessed or under Holy Spirit than the average man who prays for understanding before reading his own bible, if so what do we need them for???

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Am I wrong or right please clarify if you know

by Skeptical78 in

i recently became aware of the new light.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?

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Skeptical78

I recently became aware of the new light. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?