Posts by thedepressedsoul

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Young baptism a double standard with marriage?

by thedepressedsoul in

i remember tons of young ones getting counseled for being too young to date and for marriage.

the elders said, "marriage is the 2nd biggest dedication of your life (baptism being 1st), at 20 you still don't know who you are or what you want.

you can't possibly make a decision like that, that young!

thedepressedsoul

I remember tons of young ones getting counseled for being too young to date and for marriage. The elders said, "Marriage is the 2nd biggest dedication of your life (baptism being 1st), at 20 you still don't know who you are or what you want. You can't possibly make a decision like that, that young!" Not to mention, your feelings, likes and dislikes change.

One of the many Young People Ask quotes, "Marriage is a huge step. It’s important to know not only what you’re getting into but who you’re getting into it with" & there are many many more like that in publications.

Yet for the first "biggest" dedication of your life you can be 11? Double standards everywhere!

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On the subject of Child Baptism - Video

by cappytan in

so, the latest "kids" kingdom melody video is out.. here are some screenshots:.

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yep, that's right, they showed a kid with a teddy bear getting baptized.. here's the video in full for documentation, if you can stomach it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ellrtyj_maq.

thedepressedsoul

I remember tons of young ones getting counseled for being too young to date and for marriage. The elders said, "Marriage is the 2nd biggest dedication of your life (baptism being 1st), at 20 you still don't know who you are or what you want. You can't possibly make a decision like that, that young!"

Yet for the first "biggest" dedication you can be 11?

They know young ones are leaving the "Truth" like crazy once they turn 18. Their solution? Baptize them as young as possible so it's even harder for them to leave when they're 18!

If they encouraged people to wait until 18 or older, no one would get baptized! They'd all be out or sit on the fence and enjoy life without consequences. They have no control over you when you don't get baptized. It's sick they want these kids to get baptized so young to control their lives and make it harder to leave!

Exact reason they are practically banning "higher education"!

Wait until that poor kid is DF, has their name announced and is shunned by everyone at the age of 12-14!

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Now believe in the Rapture, just DON'T call it that.

by Lemonp in

july study article confirms what the march study articles implied.

wt july 15, your deliverance is getting near, para 15. annointed will be raptured before armageddon.

i thought it was interesting the difference between the simplified version and the study version.

thedepressedsoul

It is these kinds of subtle "hair-splitting" interpretations that cause sects.

That's the point I never got. Does it really matter? Live a good life and if/when god comes he will tell you exactly what to believe. Why all of this hair splitting when it doesn't matter not to mention changes so often with the JW's.

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Having a hard time holding my tongue...

by problemaddict 2 in

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friends

...recently.. i'm normally pretty calculated.

my fade is done, my wife is out, my family and friends know, i maintain quite abit of the friendships of those closest to me jw or not, my family isn't shunning, and the few people we have kept it from for other reasons we are calculating how to break it.

(elderly matriarch that we are simply not going to tell so she doesn't die).. but.....all these facebook meme's and stupid feeds about reliance on jehovah, distraction, staying close to his organization, persevering against satan.....its driving me nuts.

thedepressedsoul

"Oh Dear father Jehovah, thankyou for the wonderful meeting tonight! The way that you provide such clear and accurate truth through our only approved channel the governing body makes our hearts overflow with appreciation. We know that these most holy ones have your spirit apon them with all that they do and say, and with all of the information they approve to be written. NEVER have they been wrong, or led us astray!. We are greatful that they alone provide us with the TRUTH about the future...yes A FUTURE WE LOOK FORARD TO EAGERLY as we await the decisive destruction of every person, men, women and little children, as well as babies, who have not joined your organization. We look forward to the clean up after your LOVING day of destruction, and we thank the Governing body for being our mediator between us and you. We leave this prayer now in the name of ToMo3, AMEN"

Haha!

"Please allow us to resist the urge of wearing tight pants. We know the devil himself would like to see us in them but it's only through you that we can resist such urges. We pray for all of those who are over 21 and still not a MS. We know they are imperfect and have spiritual struggles. We pray though that you can be with them but also to help our dear sisters not to date them until they are an MS. Help us to get at least 10 hours each month, we know that any less means we are spiritually weak. Even though none of that is written in your word, we trust your only channel of communication that they can understand and grasp such precious nuggets and keep us clear of the gay fashion industry. Allow us to watch every broadcast as we know the importance and honor that your leaders of your earthly organization deserve. Help us not to get caught up on redefined words or changed meanings as we know the devil is entering our mind. We trust all you say and loyally trust all the GB say even if does not make sense from a human prospective since the devil is trying to mislead us and never our human organization.

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Now believe in the Rapture, just DON'T call it that.

by Lemonp in

july study article confirms what the march study articles implied.

wt july 15, your deliverance is getting near, para 15. annointed will be raptured before armageddon.

i thought it was interesting the difference between the simplified version and the study version.

thedepressedsoul

Soon, very soon, each of us will face a similar situation. - From same article

This shit just got real!

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Now believe in the Rapture, just DON'T call it that.

by Lemonp in

july study article confirms what the march study articles implied.

wt july 15, your deliverance is getting near, para 15. annointed will be raptured before armageddon.

i thought it was interesting the difference between the simplified version and the study version.

thedepressedsoul

Here goes the WT again, nitpicking over words and redefining words.

We do not use the word “rapture” here to describe this event because of its connection to Christendom’s false teaching.

Are you kidding me? So let me get this right, they had the same teaching all along and the WT flip flops on theirs and the other guys have the false teaching? This crap is getting too obvious.

This is like them saying, "We don't shun, we lovingly disfellowship our members" or "We aren't against higher education, we just don't recommend it" or any other FAQ on their website! All they do is take a negative word and try to spin it into something less.

I can't wait for a few months after this article to comment and be like "They have the hope of the rapture, I mean..." Make sure to say the rapture but then correct myself every time I have a chance.

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Do You Think Humanity Will Ever Be Completely Free From Religion?

by InjusticeSystem in

i realize that many here still have a form of spirituality or faith, and i mean no disrespect to those individuals.

i suppose i am posting this question to those, like myself, who have come to the conclusion that religion in general is a major hindrance to the progress of our species and needs to be put aside so that we can advance to our full potential.

so my question is, do you think this will ever actually happen, and how do you think we can get there?

thedepressedsoul

I don't mind people having a religious belief. It's completely up to them and if that is what they want, let them enjoy it.

What I don't mind is a religious person who feels the need to impose their belief on you and if they don't agree take it a step further. I'm all for religious freedom but when the religion does things to MAKE someone believe it or causes physical or emotional pain, I am not for it. A religion should not force someone to believe what they do and then give consequences if you don't agree.

Religion and a belief in god will always be around. I don't ever see it going away 100%.

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New Watchtower and Awake 11 pages of shallow articles...what happened!!!

by Witness 007 in

found the latest copies next to the toilet {witnesses must have visited my wife} and had a look after not reading anything for a year.

its a pamphlet not a magazine!

only a few pages long with shallow articles.it felt like my "spiritual food" was now those cheap home delivered diet t.v meals!!

thedepressedsoul

So do you all think it is a worldwide societal trend or just a JW one?

I think humans are a lot smarter today than ever. If I have a question I can have the answer in seconds. Never before in history could you do that. I know way more than I would have 20 years ago. Even video games gave me a certain type of thinking/problem solving skills and quick reactions.

The reason JW are getting dumb down is because of the control and knowledge control the GB want. If you let JW do too much of their own research and knowledge you start to get stuff like www.jwfacts.com. Any high control environment try's to stunt their people or keep them at a lower levels at all times.

It's hand holding at it's finest, except the GB try to grip as hard as possible.

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New Watchtower and Awake 11 pages of shallow articles...what happened!!!

by Witness 007 in

found the latest copies next to the toilet {witnesses must have visited my wife} and had a look after not reading anything for a year.

its a pamphlet not a magazine!

only a few pages long with shallow articles.it felt like my "spiritual food" was now those cheap home delivered diet t.v meals!!

thedepressedsoul

where is it that there are several people sitting around discussing what they feel the bible text they are quoting means? or is it only the 'governing body' who has that right?

I've never seen a member do this. If they wonder what something means they crack open the WT Library. Only the GB can interpret scriptures. Try going to a KH and telling an elder what you think a verse means, they'll tell you to do research and by research they mean WT Library.

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New Watchtower and Awake 11 pages of shallow articles...what happened!!!

by Witness 007 in

found the latest copies next to the toilet {witnesses must have visited my wife} and had a look after not reading anything for a year.

its a pamphlet not a magazine!

only a few pages long with shallow articles.it felt like my "spiritual food" was now those cheap home delivered diet t.v meals!!

thedepressedsoul

It's true! I remember even back when I use to go door knocking (about 10 years ago), the instructions we would get if someone wanted actually discuss doctrine was to say goodbye because they were most likely "apostates". Always thought that was weird, I know realize the truth is that if we were to discuss doctrine it would have been us seeing TATT and not the other person joining us.

If you think about it, what's the point of just reading the bible and studying it as a JW. You can't draw any other conclusion besides what the GB teach and think. You're better off just reading their literature and looking up the quoted scriptures. That's exactly what they want and exactly how it's set up.

As for defending their beliefs, I agree. They know they can't put a fight up and with so much on the internet that shuts down what they believe a JW will leave the door at a loss.

In the past, know one had access to the internet or their history. A JW would teach and argue what they were told to believe and the history they were told happened. The householder had no other information or nothing to present. That's all changed now. This is why they are now told just to leave because the JW will be leaving the door scratching their head thinking, "This wasn't how the Thursday night demo went?"

Even in public witnessing we are specifically told not to discuss doctrine issues. If someone comes up asking to direct them to the website.

It's sad but the preaching work is actually probably starting to make them lose members vs gain them.