Posts by thedepressedsoul

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So... Are they done printing the number of partakers?

by thedepressedsoul in

during the wt study yesterday i had a confused look on my face the whole meeting.

more of a, wtf, face.

one paragraph says, "therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.".

thedepressedsoul

Nothing new. The same has been stated for years - though I admit not as clearly as this time, but still it is nothing new, and the numbers have been printed at the same time. So what's the worry?

They have openly admitted this time though that numbers are inaccurate. In the past they just said "some" may be mentally unstable. I've never heard them say or even worse, print, that the actual number is not correct.

If you told elders a few years ago that the number of anointed is inaccurate and wrong. They would form a JC and DF you on the spot.

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So... Are they done printing the number of partakers?

by thedepressedsoul in

during the wt study yesterday i had a confused look on my face the whole meeting.

more of a, wtf, face.

one paragraph says, "therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.".

thedepressedsoul

During the WT study yesterday I had a confused look on my face the whole meeting. More of a, WTF, face.

One paragraph says, "Therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.". Then the review question asks, "Why should we not be worried about the number of those who eat the bread and drink the wine at the Memorial?—Rom. 9:11, 16.".

You had JW's commenting the whole meeting about how the number of partakers is inaccurate and not a true number of the actual anointed.

So either come the 2017 Year Book the number of partakers is gone or everyone will just think it's an inaccurate number. If they keep it, why even print it then? Your own publication says it's inaccurate and now your members think it's inaccurate. So are they just admitting the number is a load of crap and if so, why print it all now?

That was the most confused I've been at a meeting in a long time. Heck the generation teaching makes more sense then this article.

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

thedepressedsoul

@thedepressedsoul - I don't disagree. My comment is related to whether the translation is accurate or not. It is for this case. For the past roughly two years I've been studying Koine and from my research it's accurate.
That said I absolutely see your point as well.

No worries! Thanks for bringing your insight into the conversation. I always enjoy reading peoples research!

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It's so awkward that people have to touch the emblems

by thedepressedsoul in

it's just so weird to me.

for a group that is against idolatry so much and yet each person has to "touch" the bread and wine.. one lady was standing and holding a baby.

she called the server over just so she could put her thumb on the bread and wine.. did jesus ever clarify what he wanted them to do in remembrance of him?

thedepressedsoul

That part was always weird to me, too. I thought it was nutty the way the servers would even hand the plate to the speaker who would (if he was not a partaker) just hand it right back. It was like he had to touch the plate and the cup. When I gave the Memorial talk, I would just shake my head "no" when the server offered me the emblems; I did not even touch the plate or the cup.

haha! Were you ever allowed to give a memorial talk again?

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It's so awkward that people have to touch the emblems

by thedepressedsoul in

it's just so weird to me.

for a group that is against idolatry so much and yet each person has to "touch" the bread and wine.. one lady was standing and holding a baby.

she called the server over just so she could put her thumb on the bread and wine.. did jesus ever clarify what he wanted them to do in remembrance of him?

thedepressedsoul

It's just so weird to me. For a group that is against idolatry so much and yet each person has to "touch" the bread and wine.

One lady was standing and holding a baby. She called the server over just so she could put her thumb on the bread and wine.

Did Jesus ever clarify what he wanted them to do in remembrance of him? When I read the account it comes off as he wanted people to more remember what he did and the whole sin issue. To take time to remember him giving his life.

The guy used illustrations for everything. Was the bread and wine simply another illustration? I would certainly think he didn't mean that every person had to literally touch the wine glass and bread plate or they would die a painful death at Armageddon.

The whole night has always weird'ed me out!

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

thedepressedsoul

I found it interesting that they slipped inactive ones right in there with unbelievers like relatives, mates, and former students. If you're inactive it's like you've gone back beyond step on in da troof. I've just never seen them lumped into a group like that before.

They're coming after inactive ones! I have heard more about inactive ones as a JW in the last year then all the other years put together. They either want to bring them to "justice" or they know their numbers are in trouble and are trying to get them up with any means possible.

Shows how desperate they are. A few years ago they wouldn't have given inactive ones the time of day.

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

thedepressedsoul

..and for the record I've seen "he-sed" translated as both loyalty and kindness or loving kindness. So I don't see an issue with either translation here.

The issue is they had loving in their old translation. It is now loyalty. Which fits WT agenda more? To have Loving in there or loyalty? Do you see why the change was made now?

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

thedepressedsoul

Just like JWs always describe the last convention as "the best one ever", i think it has become a bit of a cliche that we always think the cult bit is worse than ever every year. However they do seem to have outdone themselves with this program, it is certainly the most cultist I can remember..

Dude I hate that! Every year I have to listen to this one sister about how this is the best convention ever! I have to hear from people every year how it's the best one to date! I can't take it! At least they have videos now so my mind doesn't go completely numb.

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

thedepressedsoul

How many fucki*ng repetitions of words!!!!!!!!!
Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Tired
WTF?

hahaha! I laughed for a good minute when I read your post. I guess the guy on reddit made a spelling error.

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

thedepressedsoul

To paraphrase rebel8,
Cult cult cultedy cult
Or....let's review.........

Am I the only one blown away by the talk titles? I think the word cult isn't enough! I'm completely shocked they would print this!

If the talk titles are anything to go off of, I have a feeling this Child abuse issue is about to get blown wide into the open.