Posts by Divergent

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November 22 Study Article: God is a hypocrite & is NOT impartial!

by Divergent in

another vomit-inducing study article.

would just like to highlight a few paragraphs from it (blondie would probably do a more in-depth analysis as usual):.

9 first of all, jehovah reveals the truth about himself.

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FastJehu, that's deep analysis. Something else for us to think about. Thanks for bring that up!

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November 22 Study Article: God is a hypocrite & is NOT impartial!

by Divergent in

another vomit-inducing study article.

would just like to highlight a few paragraphs from it (blondie would probably do a more in-depth analysis as usual):.

9 first of all, jehovah reveals the truth about himself.

Divergent

Another vomit-inducing study article. Would just like to highlight a few paragraphs from it (Blondie would probably do a more in-depth analysis as usual):

9 First of all, Jehovah reveals the truth about himself. He reveals his personal name, which appears more times in the Bible than any other name. In this way, Jehovah draws close to us, letting us know him. (Jas. 4:8) Jehovah also reveals his qualities, the kind of God he is. While the observable universe makes manifest his power and wisdom, Jehovah also reveals through the Scriptures his justice and especially his boundless love. (Rom. 1:20) He is like a father who is not only strong and wise but also fair and loving, making it easy for his children to have a close personal relationship with him.

So God is fair & loving. Yeah. Let's go on further to see if that is really the case

Additional points: God reveals his personal name in the Bible. Right. Apparently, he did it in such a way that this so very important name became unpronounceable & forgot to do it in the New Testament!

JEHOVAH PROTECTS AND SAFEGUARDS US
15 Certainly, one of a loving father’s priorities is that of protecting and safeguarding his family against any possible harm or serious danger. Jehovah, our heavenly Father, does no less. Of Jehovah, the psalmist says: “He is guarding the lives of his loyal ones; he rescues them from the hand of the wicked.” (Ps. 97:10) Consider an example. How precious your eyes are to you! That is how Jehovah feels about his people. (Read Zechariah 2:8.) How precious God’s people are to him!

If I am a loving father & my faithful children were really precious to me & I have the power to do so, I would save my children in any situation, NOT depending on the situation or depending on which children! If I can be better than this God who is being described, then something must be really wrong!

16 One way Jehovah protects his people is by means of his angels. (Ps. 91:11) One angel saved Jerusalem from the invading Assyrians, destroying an army of 185,000 in one night. (2 Ki. 19:35) The apostles Peter and Paul as well as others experienced angelic deliverance from prison. (Acts 5:18-20; 12:6-11) In our day as well, Jehovah’s hand is not short. A headquarters representative who visited a branch in Africa reported that political and religious conflicts had devastated that country. Fighting, looting, raping, and killing plunged the land into chaos and anarchy. Yet, none of our brothers and sisters lost their life in that case, even though many of them lost all their belongings and their livelihood. When asked how they were faring, everyone, with a broad smile, answered: “All is well, thanks to Jehovah!” They felt God’s love for them.

Another example of cherry-picking. We all know that in Malawi, brothers & sisters lost their lives & many sisters were raped. If it is said that God loves his people according to this experience above, then it can also be said that God loves Malawi people less & is not impartial!

17 Jehovah has on occasion allowed enemies to take the life of a faithful one, such as Stephen. Yet, God protects his people overall by providing timely warnings against Satan’s crafty acts. (Eph. 6: 10-12) Through his Word and Bible-based publications from his organization, we are helped to see the truth about deceptive riches, immoral and violent entertainment, misuse of the Internet, and so on. Clearly, as a loving Father, Jehovah looks after the safety and well-being of his people.

Question: Is God partial or impartial to his loyal servants? According to the first sentence in the paragraph above, God is NOT impartial as he is selective in showing favor even though all instances involve his faithful worshippers. This goes against the Bible teaching which says that God is impartial to all!

I also have a problem with this statement: "God protects his people overall by providing timely warnings against Satan’s crafty acts." Right. Failed date predictions are NOT timely spiritual food!

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php

Additional points: Is spiritual food more important than physical food? Can you eat a Bible? If I am in a situation which requires immediate physical help, how can God's choosing NOT to help me in the obvious way but giving me "spiritual food" instead help me in my situation???

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Revelation - it's grand climax is at hand

by Listener in

some people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.. the person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.. interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it.

the org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new.

they are real wankers ;)..

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This book was studied 3 times during congregation book studies. The first 2 times I was very young & don't remember shit, just some pictures which I thought were cool. I was a teenager when the book was studied for the 3rd time. It was then that the book was revised

The problem was that for some reason, our cong did not have an adequate supply of the new books for some time, so many had to use their old books. To make sure that those who had the old books were kept up to date with the changes, there was a pdf file that was made available which contained all the revised parts. Those who still did not have the new book had to make printouts to be able to follow along correctly during the study

I saw the many pages of changes & wondered to myself WHY there were so many understandings which needed to be updated??? However, I was still too brainwashed to figure things out, only was able to do so much later

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Jesus and cart witnessing

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

http://imgur.com/r/exjw/pshnkwp.

.

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Seems legit... ;)

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Are we participants in this forum because of bouts of "loneliness"?

by Wonderment in

i wonder how many of us here hold on to this meeting place out of "loneliness.

could it be that we harbor feelings of "abandonment" and "loneliness" from being left cold and dry by the wt people and our families?

perhaps we do have a need to reach out to people with similar experiences.

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I'm here to count my hours

Just kidding. I'm here not because I'm lonely, but because I need a place to rant from time to time. Obviously, I can't do that with JW acquaintances (I won't call them friends now) nor can I do so with my non-JW friends (it's difficult for them to relate & understand as non-JW's, besides there are much better things to talk to them about than religion). So here I am!

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Creepy things jw's have said to you

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

here's mine: i'm 14 years old, just baptised and a old boy married elder of about 60 odd comes up to me and says " ooooooooooh!

"purrpurr"!

your getting such a lovely figure on you!

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There is a brother in the cong I attend who has the awkward tendency to bring up sex related matters in his talk... even though that is usually irrelevant & out of the topic! He just finds a way to slot it in (try not to think dirty here)

Anyway, after some time, a nearby cong requested our cong NOT to send this brother over as a speaker to their cong anymore! The brother does not refer to sex as much as he used to in his talks now. I think he got the message

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One reason behind the slow steady decline of JWs

by AllTimeJeff in

hello first of all to those that remember me.

i'm doing well, 10 years since my missionary trip to cameroon.

i've met a couple of goals.

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Sparky1:
Nathan 'Papa' Knorr was a finely crafted persona that served the Organization very well. At Bethel he was all business and kept his nose to the grindstone. When he gave talks at assemblies and other gatherings he projected a fatherly and comforting demeanor. He appeared full of confidence and spoke with authority without overpowering his audience. 'Papa' Knorr was head of the Bethel family and 'head' of the 'spiritual family' of Jehovah's Witnesses. In the current arrangement who can 'fill his shoes' in the Jehovah's Witnesses 'family'?:

Nathan Knorr was a cold, aloof, hypocritical, heartless jerk, as evidenced by eyewitness accounts of those who knew him & all the strict man-made rules & decisions he imposed on the Bethel family & missionaries during his time. I suggest that you do more research next time before posting!

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Adele's new album....

by _Morpheus in

adele's new album came out today.

so far i love it, although one of the songs feels a bit overwrought to me.

i find her to be at her best, as i always have, when she is singing only accompanied by a piano.

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Haven't heard the new album yet...

Anyway, I thought the Skyfall song sucked! My favorite Adele song is Chasing Pavements. But that's just me...

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The "overly attached witness parents" problem

by scaredtospeak in

it's so good to finally be nineteen years old.

graduated from high school, taken more seriously as an adult.

i even have a job.

Divergent

Oh yeah, this song is for you. Love the lyrics! =)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE

This ain't a song for the broken-hearted
No silent prayer for faith-departed
I ain't gonna be just a face in the crowd
You're gonna hear my voice
When I shout it out loud

It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

This is for the ones who stood their ground
For Tommy and Gina, never backed down
Tomorrow's getting hard make no mistake
Luck ain't even lucky
Got to make your owns breaks

It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

Better stand tall when they're calling you out
Don't bend, don't break, baby, don't back down

It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

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The "overly attached witness parents" problem

by scaredtospeak in

it's so good to finally be nineteen years old.

graduated from high school, taken more seriously as an adult.

i even have a job.

Divergent

Make the move. I did the same too. No regrets!

Well, maybe just one regret. That I didn't do so earlier!

You deserve your OWN life, free from the interference of a stupid & pathetic man-made religion. Your parents might be nice, but with the influence of the cult, it's a toxic environment for you to be in & it would DEFINITELY affect you for worse. Make the move immediately when the opportunity arises, ASAP. Keep this in mind - The longer you stay, the harder it is to leave