She told me if this is how I feel then I should keep praying about it until I'm convinced
Divergent
JoinedPosts by Divergent
-
17
Why I DON'T Fear The Future - A Conversation With My JW Mum
by Divergent in3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
-
-
-
17
Why I DON'T Fear The Future - A Conversation With My JW Mum
by Divergent in3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
-
-
Divergent
3 questions I hit my JW mum with:
First question: Do you believe that God is love?
Her answer: Yes, definitely!
Second question: Do you believe that a God of love would punish someone for not doing something that they CANNOT do?
Her answer: No, of course not!
Third question: Do you think a God of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something I cannot do (be a JW) because I am not convinced RATHER than convince me beyond doubt?
Her answer: You don't want to be convinced
Me: There is NO SUCH THING as me not wanting to be convinced as I already prayed to God that he should convince me BEYOND DOUBT if he requires me to follow a certain religion. God knows EXACTLY what it takes to convince me, doesn't he? So I don't have anything to fear as it is entirely up to God now and if he chooses not to convince me, then he has no right to destroy me. He is a God of love anyway, so why would he choose to destroy me RATHER than convince me beyond doubt which was exactly what I asked him to do in the first place? ? ?
-
12
I Found Something Better Than "The Truth"!
by Divergent ini often come across jw's using the "worldwide brotherhood" as one of the reasons to justify that jw's have "the truth.
" such a brotherhood, they claim, would not exist outside the organisation because there is no way that people of different religions, nationalities, races, cultures, backgrounds, languages etc.
can be united and associate together freely without "the truth!".
-
-
Divergent
I often come across JW's using the "worldwide brotherhood" as one of the reasons to justify that JW's have "the truth." Such a brotherhood, they claim, would NOT exist outside the organisation because there is NO WAY that people of different religions, nationalities, races, cultures, backgrounds, languages etc. can be united and associate together freely without "the truth!"
Well, JW's are WRONG because there are many other organisations / communities that are able to achieve this in a much better way than they can ever do!
When I faded as a young adult after wasting a large part of my youth as a born-in JW, I set out to find a community of like-minded people who share the same interests as me. I then discovered Couchsurfing and became a member of this cool international travel community!
As a Couchsurfing member, I have hosted and stayed with people all around the world - total stangers at first - but we became friends instantly! I have now gained countless friends - more than I ever had as a JW! I now enjoy travelling and fun get-togethers + activities with people I like and can relate to instead of the boring meetings and pointless field service with people I wouldn't normally be friends with. I have now been to many new places, grown in my understanding of people and the world, gained many priceless experiences and unforgettable memories, plus my outlook and perspective on life has changed for the better
As a JW, I did assist brothers and sisters, but most of the time I did it out of a sense of duty RATHER than because I really wanted to. I did things out of obligation because I was expected to do those things. Furthermore, as a brother who was "reaching out", I often didn't have the option to say no when the elders dump something that they didn't want to do on you. However, I am now rendering assistance to others in a meaningful way without any compulsion or ulterior motive because I really want to, because I believe in the spirit of humanity, and because it gives me joy and satisfaction
So yes, I lost a "worldwide brotherhood" but gained another which is far more superior - one that is not dominated by fear, obligation, and guilt. And guess what - they have more members than JW's!
A related article -
http://jwsurvey.org/support/the-unexpected-kindness-of-the-world (I did not write this but share the same sentiments as the author)
I now live life to the full, not according to the dictates of a man-made religion. The world is full of love and kindness, but JW's WANT you to believe otherwise!
-
19
"It's a cult, mom."
by schnell inmy mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.
even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.
maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".
-
-
Divergent
She said that millions of people subscribe to this cult
Well, BILLIONS of people DON'T! ! !
-
36
Why are JWs so sensitive to criticism?
by Half banana ini remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.
-
-
Divergent
Onager:
I mean Samson? 300 foxes? Really? Live foxes??
I live in a heavily fox populated part of the world but unless there was some kind of fox shop nearby there is no way in Hades that I could get hold of 300 live foxes.
Samson invented Firefox!
-
55
Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
-
-
Divergent
Simon:
Are you an idiot or the offspring of past idiots?
I hate to call my parents idiots, but unfortunately they are brainwashed to such an extent that I have no choice but to agree with the statement above
-
42
My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth
by pale.emperor inmy ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.
she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.
for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.
-
-
Divergent
Shadow:
Married 7 years then new girlfriend within only 4 months??? I feel sorry for your wife
For f***s sake! His wife LEFT him, and he was disfellowshipped and ostracised. In such a situation, you can either be depressed and wallow in misery or MOVE ON. And move on is what he did. I would say GOOD for him, who the bloody hell are you to judge???
-
5
We are STRONG, NOT Weak!!!
by Divergent intoday's text:.
thursday, october 20. assist those who are weak.—acts 20:35.. you may know from personal experience that it can take time to recover from a debilitating physical illness.
similarly, a christian who has been weakened by personal difficulties or very trying circumstances may need time to regain spiritual strength.
-
-
Divergent
Today's text:
Thursday, October 20
Assist those who are weak.—Acts 20:35.
You may know from personal experience that it can take time to recover from a debilitating physical illness. Similarly, a Christian who has been weakened by personal difficulties or very trying circumstances may need time to regain spiritual strength. True, our fellow believer will need to strengthen his own faith through personal study, prayer, and other Christian activities. But will we show patience until he regains his balance? And during that recovery, will we show enduring love? Will we strive to help those who are temporarily weak to feel valued and to sense our Christian affection? (2 Cor. 8:8) Never forget that as we provide support to our brothers, we experience the joy that only giving can bring. We also cultivate our capacity for showing empathy and patience. But there is more. The congregation as a whole grows in warmth and love. Above all, we imitate Jehovah, who considers every individual to be precious. w14 6/15 3:18, 19
Ok, so today's text hit a nerve...
I absolutely DETEST it when I am labeled as "weak" by JW's. Yes, I am not going to meetings or going out in service. Yes, I am no longer an active JW. But NO, I am FAR from weak. In fact, I am STRONG. Strong enough to face up to the facts and realize that I have been cheated, deceived, and lied to. Strong enough to actually DO SOMETHING about it. Strong enough to stand up against bullying elders. Strong enough to make my OWN decisions which are not based on absurd man-made rules. Strong enough to break away from my brainwashed family members who are still in the cult. Strong enough to leave everything behind and start afresh. Strong enough to walk away from this cult and say F*** you all! Strong enough to stick my head back in to try to wake up some of my friends even though I am running the risk of getting disfellowshipped. Strong enough to write this post and share with the whole world how I feel!
So for all of you who are stuck-in / fading / faded / disassociated or disfellowshipped, you are NOT weak but you are STRONG. Never forget that!!!
-
26
Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be
by nomorepain13 in*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.
a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.
right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.
-
-
Divergent
nomorepain13:
I still believe in jehovah
If you believe in god and you believe that god is love, then you would NOT want to be a JW because they are the OPPOSITE of love. JW's claim to believe that god is love, YET at the same time show callous lack of love when it comes to issues such as child abuse, blood transfusions, and judging others. They impose countless man-made rules in contrary to 1 Corinthians 4:6 which clearly says that true Christians should NOT "go beyond the things that are written". As a self-centered cult, they are sorely lacking in charitable works. They practise shunning and break up countless families as a result. Any "love" displayed is superfical and shallow as they would shun you in an instant should you not agree with any of their teachings. To make things worse, they believe that their "loving" god will destroy almost 8 BILLION non-JW's at Armageddon, just because these ones are NOT CONVINCED that JW's have "the truth". Think about it — that is NOT love at all!
When I was an active JW, I had the unhealthy fear that I would be destroyed at Armageddon. Yes, JW's believe that their so-called "loving" god would rather destroy you even if you are a good person simply because you are not doing enough in "the truth"! So while JW's teach that God is love, their actions and beliefs speak otherwise!
I don't belong to any religion now and I DON'T fear the future. If god is LOVE, then I'm sure that he will look upon me with favor because I live a life based on true love. A loving god would find a reason to save me, NOT to destroy me!
-
26
Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be
by nomorepain13 in*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.
a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.
right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.
-
-
Divergent
nomorepain13:
Thank you everyone for replying. Im on jw facts reading about 1914.
Fantastic! The funny thing is that JW's would call this an apostate website, when in reality the information there is based on their OWN publications. So when they say jwfacts and other similar sites are apostate, they are in fact unknowingly saying that they are apostates themselves!