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  The thousand mile bullshit stare

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone else tired of this wt cliche?.

  "a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.

  as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".

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  Coitus interruptus... that was the term I was trying to recall! Didn't know that was translated into 'masturbation' in some languages

  Seriously, masturbation is not.mentioned at all in the Bible. This is even admitted by the org:

  
  

  10 What is the Bible’s view of masturbation?
  ▪ Answer: The Bible does not specifically mention masturbation—the deliberate self-stimulation that produces sexual arousal and orgasm. However, God’s Word commands Christians: “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, [and improper] sexual appetite.”—Colossians 3:5.
  Masturbation fosters a distorted and self-centered view of sex. The Bible assures us that God can impart “power beyond what is normal” to those who make a sincere effort to break this habit.—2 Corinthians 4:7; Philippians 4:13.

  Questions: If masturbation is so wrong, why is it not specifically mentioned in the Bible? If God can be so specific about far less significant things in the Mosaic Law, why can't he also be specific about masturbation if that is so wrong? If the scriptures quoted above are in support of non-masturbation, why are they so vague that they go against 1 Corinthians 4: 6 if used to apply to masturbation? If masturbation is so wrong, why is it that masturbation itself is not a disfellowshipping offense but viewing pornography is? If God can impart "power beyond what is normal" to those who make a sincere habit to break this habit, why was it that I received no such power despite making an earnest & sincere effort???
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  I may have to go back!!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe i'm over reacting but i'm getting tired of all the bullshit.

  they truly see you as a demonized one when your gone.

  i spoke to my 14 year old about not getting baptized he said he wasn't and understood my reasoning then texts his mother and says some really hurtful stuff.

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  Welcome home, my brother!

  Just kidding... anyway, your son is currently conflicted. Would he be even more confused if you go back? Perhaps he might be praying that you return to Jehovah, and if that's what you do, could he view it as an answer to his prayer & become more spiritually motivated as a result?

  Anyway, you know your son better. Do what you have to. Just some food for thought...
  
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  The thousand mile bullshit stare

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone else tired of this wt cliche?.

  "a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.

  as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".

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  Onan wasted his semen on the ground after having relations with his brother's wife... he ejaculated after intercourse, not masturbated
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  The thousand mile bullshit stare

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone else tired of this wt cliche?.

  "a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.

  as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".

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  Seriously, this girl is hot! Too bad she's a sister though... =(
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  5 Steps to be a good cop inside the congregation...

  by hardtobeme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many of you did this steps to keep the congo clean?.

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  Right on, Smiddy

  Also, take note on the emphasis on what is considered to be "appropriate dressing". The "spiritually weak" sister went from a sleeveless top & a sleeveless dress to a modest, full-sleeved dress!
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  What it takes to keep separate from the world

  by Sabin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check out this mag.

  june 15th, 1980.. without a doubt, our appreciating just how wicked & corrupt satan's world is will help us to keep separate from the world.

  such appreciation will make it easy for us to obey the command found at psalms 97:10 "o you lovers of jehovah, hate what is bad.

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  No doubt, they have toned down the language over the years

  Consider a recent study article (25 Oct 2015):

  
  4 The Scriptures counsel those who want to do God’s will not to love this world and its practices. (Read 1 John 2:15, 16.) The religious, political, and commercial elements of this world—including their information channels—are under the influence of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. (2 Cor. 4:4; 1 John 5:19) As Christians, therefore, we need to watch our associations. God’s inspired Word declares this fundamental truth: “Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits.” —1 Cor. 15:33.
  5 To avoid spoiling our useful habits, we must not have as close associates those who practice bad things. This applies not only to associating with unbelieving wrongdoers but also to associating with those who claim to worship Jehovah but who deliberately violate hislaws. If such professing Christians engage in serious wrongdoing and do not repent, we do not continue to associate with them.—Rom. 16:17, 18.
  6 If we were to associate with those who do not obey God’s laws, we might have the tendency to do what they do in order to be accepted by them. For example, if we were to have close association with sexually immoral people, we might be tempted to practice immorality. That has happened to some dedicated Christians, and some of them were disfellowshipped because they were not repentant. (1 Cor. 5:11-13) Unless they repent, their condition can become like thatdescribed by Peter.—Read 2 Peter 2: 20-22.
  7 Although we want to be kind even to those who do not follow God’s laws, we should not become their intimate associates or close friends. It would therefore be wrong for one of Jehovah’s Witnesses who is a single person to date such an individual who is not dedicated and faithful to God and who does not respect His high standards. Maintaining Christian integrity is far more important than becoming popular with people who do not live by Jehovah’s laws. Our close associates should be those who do God’s will. Jesus said: “Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother and sister and mother.”—Mark 3:35.
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  5 Steps to be a good cop inside the congregation...

  by hardtobeme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many of you did this steps to keep the congo clean?.

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  Most likely scenario: Confront friend, friend refuses to meet with elders, tell the elders, elders meet with friend, friend is disfellowshipped, seat is empty at the KH
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  Had any weird dreams recently?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.

  then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!

  she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).

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  There are 3 people so far who know how I really feel. One is a fellow "apostate", so no worries. Another is a family member, who I can count on. The 3rd person is someone I care about, who I am trying to wake up, but to no avail so far. If there is one person that would expose me, it would be her. I don't want to put myself at risk, but at the same time I can't keep quiet any longer. Only time would tell how things would turn out...
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  Had any weird dreams recently?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.

  then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!

  she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).

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  It means that you've been exposed.

  
  Exposed as in outed as an "apostate"?
  
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  What kind of poster are you?

  by DogGone in

  1. social
  2. humour

  a while ago someone posted a link to the flame warrior guide, it seeks to define some different types of posters.

  http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/.

  i thought it might be fun and lighten the current mood to reveal which "warrior" is closest to your style, in your opinion.

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  I'm an Eagle Scout =)