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  What did being a JW teach you?

  by punkofnice in

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  these are some of the things the wbt$ 'taught' me:.

  dishonesty is fine if it's to trick people into joining the cult.. if your spouse stops believeing, the best thing you can do is break up the family.. the laws of the governing body overrule any other laws...or else!.

  my friends are conditional.. avoid loving people, they'll only let you down or get df'd.. unintelligent dumbos are better than intelligent ones if the dumbos are elders or above.. hate is better than love.. i am not good enough and god will probably enjoy killing me.. demons will appear in my room at night.. ignore practicallity if being practical or loving prevents the leaders getting money or praise.. god hates.

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  "Meek, mild-mannered, humane, respectful." Seriously???
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  What did being a JW teach you?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  these are some of the things the wbt$ 'taught' me:.

  dishonesty is fine if it's to trick people into joining the cult.. if your spouse stops believeing, the best thing you can do is break up the family.. the laws of the governing body overrule any other laws...or else!.

  my friends are conditional.. avoid loving people, they'll only let you down or get df'd.. unintelligent dumbos are better than intelligent ones if the dumbos are elders or above.. hate is better than love.. i am not good enough and god will probably enjoy killing me.. demons will appear in my room at night.. ignore practicallity if being practical or loving prevents the leaders getting money or praise.. god hates.

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  Prayer:

  When something positive happens - God is blessing you. Praise God for helping you instead of a starving child in Africa!

  When nothing happens - you just need to bear with the problem patiently / your prayer is not according to God's will / you must be doing something wrong. Boo hoo...

  When shit happens - God is testing you. But not to worry, God is faithful & he would not test you beyond what you can bear (well in my case, apparently he did!)
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  Adult Homework and Extra Credit

  by lovesjehovah in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it seems that once we became sensible adult humans, we lost our way.

  we stopped asking questions.

  we submitted to the bidding of the world.

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  There... I fixed it! Makes nore sense now =)

  It seems that once we became brainwashed sheep, we lost our way. We stopped asking questions. We submitted to the bidding of the Watchtower. We stopped doing our true homework. This life isn't about meetings, field service, pioneering, bethel service, following absurd man-made rules & ideologies, abuse of power, disfellowshipping, shunning & conditional love, protecting sex abusers & pedophiles, covering up sexual abuse & victimising the victims instead of helping them, promoting false prophecies, looking forward to the time where billions of innocent people including children & babies supposedly die at "Armageddon", etc. It's about billions of humans being here at the same time to help each other. So I raise this challenge...
  Write about what you would change in the world to make it better for every living being.
  Extra Credit: Attempt to do so.
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  Reasons for Stagnation in Growth. AKA YearBook Numbers!

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so why has the growth flatlined?

  why is less time spent in the ministry?

  why have aux pios droped by 1/3rd?.

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  2014 - 100 years of "kingdom rule". Many were in expectation for something big to happen

  2015 - Nothing happened. People got disillusioned!
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  Update 8: "fix your attitude, young lady"

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my study conductor lectured me about my attitude this morning!!!!

  apparently some sister complained to her that my attitude was irritating.

  the sister in question is just bothered by the fact that i ignore her along with her four daughters.

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  This is how they treat you now... just imagine how they would treat you after you are baptised!

  If you have more peace of mind now, imagine how much more peace of mind you would enjoy if you leave!
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  Re: New Songs for Memorial

  by pixel in

  1. jw
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  to all congregations.

  re: new songs for memorial.

  dear brothers:.

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  Yet another boring dirge!!!
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  Little "oops" in today's WT Study article.

  by stillin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paragraph 12 recommends that we meditate on the weekly reading for the theocratic ministry school.

  ok, i'm splitting hairs here.

  but there will be no more tms in a week.. somebody isn't keeping up with jehovah's celestial chariot..

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  They didn't want any spoilers to be revealed before the official announcement, hence they stuck with the old name for the study article
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  When you were in

  by Esmeralda001 in

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  coucou,.

  i hope you are well?!

  i have a few questions that i'd like to adress (if you don't mind of course).

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  B.For the born-in's/raised-in
  1.has the idea of you leaving the org and becoming what the "friends" refer to as apostates ever crossed your mind?

  Not until after I learned TTATT. I faded in less than a year

  2.when you saw wordly people getting converted, was it for you some kind of reassurance that you were in the right path or did you think they were crazy?

  I wanted to think of it as a reassurance, but at the same time couldn't ignore the elephant in the room - what about all those billions who are not "in the truth"? Don't tell me that all of them are not right hearted & that God does not see it fit to draw them in & they would be destroyed at Armageddon!!!

  
  

  3.were you strong in your faith or were you looking for the next opportunity to leave the organization.

  I was viewed as being strong, but I was far from strong on the inside. I didn't have a love or longing for spiritual activities. It was just the association & thinking that it was the truth that kept me in. I wasn't looking to leave until after I learned TTATT

  
  

  4.what type of jw were you(the zealous type? The Spiritually-weak type? The Moderate type?the Potential fader? The holier than tough type? The humble & well-meaning type?...)

  The moderate, humble & well-meaning, potential fader!
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  Hope and Reality

  by Alive! in

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  for a long time, i've been moving into a place of utmost hope and faith.

  universal reconciliation.

  as a converted jw - i began my conversion with the joy that there is a hope for something we all would love - a world where each of us sees our fellow kind as a true brother.. i don't think that's an unhealthy way to live.. but - i'm living with the effects of corruptive thinking from a 'sect' - a divisive sect and judgemental sect that has hurt my sense of self.. it's terribly painful to have completely believed one thing, and then completely believe something else.... well that's how it feels to me.. i've read of some here who were jws for years, then became devout born agains for years and now are confirmed atheists.. wow.. how do you cope with the frivolous nature of your 'beliefs' - beliefs that were 'truths' for you in their own time.. i'm struggling - anyone else?.

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  Alive!:

  I struggle with the shame I feel for falling into a cult.

  Don't focus on the shame. Be proud of the fact that you found the courage to do something about it!
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  She sent me 'Return to Jehovah' I sent her a Christmas card

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it just felt so good to say to a jw i don't feel the guilt this booklet says i must be feeling.

  i don't feel guilty for having a great big christmas tree or letting my daughter have birthdays, easter eggs, dress up at halloween, have sleepovers and friends, i told her.

  i only feel guilty about not contributing to live aid and bandaid and giving the money to a cult instead.

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  skin:

  Don't you love the way the writers of this booklet write the reasons people leave Jehovah, but they never address the real reason the majority leave the WT org. Can't have the R&F knowing this.

  This is what I posted previously about the stupid brochure & its pathetic reasons -

  The 3 reasons:

  1. Anxiety

  2. Hurt feelings

  3. Guilt

  The reasons were irrelevant to me, except for the hurt feelings part. But that was not the main reason either. My main reasons were:

  1. Gross misinterpretation & misapplication of scripture / man-made rules - 2 witness rule, blood, organ transplants, etc.

  2. False prophecies - 1914, 1975, millions now living will never die, etc.

  3. Changes in doctrine / flip-flops - This generation, etc.

  4. Scandals - Child abuse, Malawi, UN, etc.

  5. Hypocrisy - JW's are supposed to be "no part of the world". Then why is the organization "riding on the back of the wild beast" by being affiliated with the UN???

  6. Lack of remose for actions - The organization has NEVER once sincerely apologized for the damaging effects of its policies even after backtracking or being proven wrong! On a side-note, neither does it apologize to those who they are trying to reach out to in this brochure. Something like: "We are deeply sorry if you have been affected in any way by the actions of some fellow believers. Please let us know what we can do to help!" A sincere apology goes a long way. Sadly, this is not the case in WT-land

  7. Lack of love in the congregation - The brochure addresses "hurt feelings", but misses the root cause of the problem altogether! There wouldn't be hurt feelings if there was true love in the first place! The brochure attempts to put the blame on the individual who was hurt, RATHER then telling the individual that if they return, the elders would do their utmost to address any problems with the individuals involved!

  8. You can NEVER do enough - The 2nd part of the brochure is titled: "Anxiety - Hard-Pressed in Every Way". My problem was that the congregation WAS the source of that very anxiety & causing me to be hard-pressed! Asking me to "DO MORE" does not help!!!

  9. I couldn't believe it anymore - I couldn't believe the common belief that God would destroy 99.99% of the world's population at Armageddon & only JW's would be saved. Wait... NOT all JW's would be saved - those "spiritually weak" ones would probably be destroyed as well. That DOES NOT fit the description of a loving God at all! I realized that the only reason why I was a witness was because I was born-in. If I was not, there was no way that I would be!

  10. I am NOT proud to be a JW anymore - It is an undeniable fact that the organization has more negative points rather than good - If you ask people what their impression of JW's is, would it be more positive or negative? If you think about it, the organization has brought more reproach upon God's name rather than glory, by means of all their scandals & man-made rules! They can't blame Satan as they are the ones shooting themselves in the foot!