would it be fair to say many of the posts on jwn are in essence about this?.
if we could better understand what worked for us, would we be better able to help others?.
where do basic human needs ("met" by the cult) end, and where does addiction start?.
Well, we don't call it "drinking the kool aid" for no reason.
When we stop taking in the toxic message (the drug, the opiate known as religion) the effects wear off.......eventually.
As with any drug expect some withdrawals. Even though this is a totally psychological addiction.
correct me if i am wrong , wasnt this first brought before the courts on the 20/09/2012 ?
if not earlier ?.
candace conti has held out from taking a settlement from the wtb&ts which would require a gag order .
It would be near impossible to estimate the amount of people who would be keeping an eye on this case from the wings.
It is only fitting that we voice our support.
Never underestimate the power of one.
i want to retire.
i'm quite a ways off from the age to collect social security and all.
i don't hate working--i actually like it.
Oh dear hortensia, geriatric drama can be the worst. There is funny episode of
Seinfeld where Jerry's father is going through the same thing as you describe.
im sure someone must have posted this before but here goes.. q: how many jws does it take to change a lightbulb?.
a : jws are not allowed to change lightbulbs.
anyone attempting to introduce new light gets disfellowshipped.. .
it takes five.
Three elders to form a committee to decide if the lightbulb is blown.
One elder to order a MS to do it
they say that seinfeld was a tv program about nothing.
in the end, it was all silliness.. this religion is inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
it's stupid.. .
It may well be a religion about nothing, but they have managed to con eight million people into paying for their ivory tower.
So humungus is the con that even those who have "woken" up feel the need to live a lie and continue supporting their inflated attendance figures.
it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.
by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.
but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.
There is only one thing worse than spending twenty years as a JW, and that is spending twenty one.
Be glad you're not still there brainwashed, clueless and trapped.
i want to retire.
i'm quite a ways off from the age to collect social security and all.
i don't hate working--i actually like it.
Yes indeed rebel, people can be very sucky.
There seems to be some who if you get too close will suck you into their vortex of pain and drama.
Something to be said for solitary occupations like author or artist.
watched the movie heaven is for real.i was not familiar with this "true" story and wondered.
if anyone else is.
it is hard to know how much is a dramatisation and how much is actual account.. the story seemed "milked" at times and "much ado about nothing", but greg kinear's performance was great.. i have wondered whether the potrayal of christian america is an accurate one.. the young girl that paints jesus portraits was a nice touch (in a twilight zone kind of way).. all in all i think it raised some interesting questions about the role of faith and community.. .
Watched the movie Heaven is for Real.I was not familiar with this "true" story and wondered
if anyone else is. It is hard to know how much is a dramatisation and how much is actual account.
The story seemed "milked" at times and "much ado about nothing", but Greg Kinear's performance was great.
I have wondered whether the potrayal of Christian America is an accurate one.
The young girl that paints Jesus portraits was a nice touch (in a twilight zone kind of way).
All in all I think it raised some interesting questions about the role of faith and community.
it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.
i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.
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Back in Mr Cosby's day attitudes to women and sex were very "nudge, nudge, wink, wink".
Not excusing it, just sayin.TV shows were pretty sexist and racist by todays standards.
It was a different era, prevailing attitudes of the day tend to dictate behavior.
Hopefully attitudes have improved.
But, yes, I would have to agree, too much smoke not to have been a fire.
before anyone gives me the "bears/wood" similarities, this is a post based on insidethekh's reply on the mormon v jw thread.
(http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/287545/1/who-is-copying-who-jws-or-mormons) i like to see wt friendly posts on here as some of the wt bashing displays the same logical fallacies as levelled against the wts and it's followers so it's good to consider reasoned debate.. on the one hand i think itkh makes a fair point if you compare the worldwide success of mormons v jws but there is an overall context to the preaching work that is completely ignored by those fully "in" and has been a major factor in my move from being an active witness to one on the cusp of getting out.
from a statistical point of view there are great headline numbers presented by the wts but if you put them in the context of the number of witnesses, conversation ratios, ratio of new witnesses to birth rates, numbers that must be leaving, growth differentials across the globe, penetration in muslim nations and so on then these numbers become meaningless.
Yes, the preaching work as a preaching work is indeed a colossal waste of time.
But the preaching work as a keeping the "brainwashed drones busy and brainwashed, while flogging the wt brandname" is hugely successful.
After all there are 8 mill JWs doing it worldwide for them ....for free, voluntarily!
