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  This Cult Should Be Called to Account

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the emotions from this are surreal:.

  (kudos for the kid to record it).

  https://soundcloud.com/throwawayjw1914_2/abuse.

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  sparrowdown

  What a horrible woman. She sounds like the wicked witch of the west.
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  Video: 607 & 1914 Why These Dates Matter to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a great video.

  i think it's his best work so far.

  everything you ever wanted to know about 607 in 30 minutes.

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  sparrowdown

  When I was in I just just accepted the whole dates thing on face value and never queried it. Most people learn about these dates as children of the borg or during the love bombing honeymoon phase of their recrutiment and their eyes glaze over during these studies, talks and articles. So these lies are "hidden in plain sight" for the majority of JWs.

  That's what effective cults do.
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  Another Up Building Field Service Experience

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the following was from a friend of mine:.

  yesterday for the first time in the 2 years we've been living here.

  two 50+ year old women.

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  sparrowdown

  Excellent point about free will and their lack of use of it.

  I wish more would gently and intelligently challenge their beliefs like this, when they come to the door. If more people did I think many of the JWs (the ones I know anyway) would start feeling very uncomfortable about what they actually believe and that the WT expects them to defend the indefensible.
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  WTS Throws Hail Mary Pass with Major Paradigm Shift

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me begin by stating that i have no insider information, this is merely my observation.

  i believe that some time ago in watchtower land, somebody at hq posed these questions (probably an outside consultant because i don't think the gb is this hip): .

  what would happen if we cut in half the average age of the responsible brothers in the organization?

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  sparrowdown

  Because WT are such spin doctors and masters in the art of misdirection it's difficult to know what they are up to, and what their intention is. I believe there is more design than accident in all their actions.

  I wouldn't be surprised if they sent up multiple false flag events to distract from what they are really doing.
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  JW's have he lowest tolerance for LGBT

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to a pew research survey ... and it has evolved little since 2007.. eden.

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  sparrowdown

  Does not surprise me, some apologists have tried to say that the society is more tolerant of these things now, but, I have heard comments by JWs that would be classed as hate speech against gay people. In my experience many JWs loath gay people as people, not just their lifestyle.
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  Another Trey Bundy Article on Reveal: "Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders say they don’t protect sexual abusers"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/24232/.

  jehovahs witnesses leaders say they dont protect sexual abusers.

  by trey bundy / december 21, 2015 .

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  sparrowdown

  Try using those lines of reasoning in your JC if you get busted for apostacy and see what happens.

  "But, loyalty to the org is my top priority."

  "I have complied with all the bibles commands."

  "Most people have doubts at some time or another."

  "Nobody in the congregation knows I have read CoC and visit apostate websites."

  Conclusion of JC: "All excuses, you have taken no resposibilty for your actions. We find you guilty as sin, we disfellowship your ass. "
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  Tv's in Kingdom hall

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so now that the borg has taken all of the congregations money, there was just a resolution to get all new tv's, etc for the stage for the new meeting format.. i wasn't there, but it was a large sum.

  somebody mentioned over 3000$.. all the congregations in the city are likely doing the same thing, and are getting all the equipment from bethel.. i was wondering if this was happening all most everywhere?.

  can't see it in third world countries( might not even have internet).

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  sparrowdown

  Just another step towards the inevitable.

  TV screens will eventually do the lion's share of the indoctrinating. The big blue hypno-globe spinning ever so slowly lulling the congregations into a nice sleepy state of "switching off" mentally so their weakened minds can drink in more koolaid of "listen....obey....be bessed.....for the greater good...worship the GB.....donate more time, more money....you're all worthless and weak....."
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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now what is your stance?

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  If WT purchased copyright to CoC they would make a movie out of it and make Ray the evil villain and them the heroes that saved Bethel from this evil apostate ring.
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  My dilemma

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a bit of a dilemma that i would welcome advice on from the forum.. a brother in my congregation is giving evidence of having woken up - his comments and talks are usually slanted towards topics discussed here.

  he is a former elder and is part of a group of other former elders and ministerial servants who i regularly overhear using terms i would expect to hear from ones knowing ttat.

  he is a quite an effective teacher and will probably influence some.. however, in the past he has caused lots of problems for myself and others who i like (including another poster to this site who i have identified) and continues to be someone who i dislike intensely on a personal level.. his comments have been noticed by the body of elders and he is being watched.

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  sparrowdown

  I don't see where the dilemma lies.

  Surely, it is up to the individuals involved to deal with him how they see fit, and you do the same.

  
  
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  Lost friends and musing

  by Lostandfound in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sitting listening to some very evocative music, rachmaninov, my mind wandered across 4 decades of friendships and laughter in the borg, friiends now faded to memories.

  the time in "the ministry" just after a co visit when he had urged us to knock more persistently at doors instead of quiet taps so we did not disturb anyone.

  i was with someone and showing off how loud i could knock and firmly attacked the large brass door knocker in the centre of the door.

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  sparrowdown

  In my area there was a spate of incidents in which totally naked men answering the door when sisters called. I got sick of this and decided I wasn't going to let a bit of nudiness put me off. And sure enough me and another sister went up to this door one chilly morning and a naked guy answered the door smirking like he expected me to run away screaming, only I stood there, looked directly into his eyes and spent the next ten to fifteen giving him a Genesis to Revelation sermon without batting an eyelid.

  I thought, if he wanted to go all "full monty" I would go full JW.

  At the end I said "oh and BTW you might want to put something on it's cold out here."

  I think I wanted to high five the sister I was with, but she just stared at me speechless and said " er...that was great..."