Posts by sparrowdown

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Spring has sprung!

by GrreatTeacher in

though not officially spring, the past two days in the mid-atlantic have been gorgeous!

it's been over 70°f and sunny.

i've opened all the windows in the house and have sunshine and fresh air pouring in.. i walked outside today and noticed that my tulips are pushing through the ground.

sparrowdown

Sounds very springy GT.

Speaking of hemispheres I hear the UK was treated to the Aurora borealis light show a few nights ago.

You lucky poms.

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Fade Fail: Not as Easy as I'd Like

by Hadriel in

this has been tough.

very tough actually.

because i'm so integrated into things including certain tasks which i can't say as it would be a dead giveaway i find myself constantly bombarded by things.. i'm literally a lying every day.

I think many of us overestimate just how much of an effect our disappearing off into the sunset will have on the congregation and also how we will be missed. Sure there will be an initial flurry of gossip and questions as to your spiritual fitness, but if you just keep acting like "I'm ok, what about you how are you doing" whenever you see someone they soon stop asking, lose interest and look elsewhere for more juicy gossip.

They actualy give up on people very quickly these days, so hang in there and think of it this way.

Your association with the congregation is a like rock being thrown into a pond - it may make a splash, even create a small ripple, but then it disappears without a trace of ever being there at all.

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JWs win 2015 Bronze Telly Award in the “Online Video News Feature”

by OrphanCrow in

jworg is carrying a "news" article concerning their recent win of a telly award.. i don't need to add to the jworg website hits, so here is the award listed on the telly award website:.

https://www.tellyawards.com/winners/list/?l=jehovah%27s&event=16&category=3&award=b.

2015 online video bronze winners.

sparrowdown

The GB could win a Belly Award aswell.

The writing department a Smelly Award.

Hmmm this could be the start of a whole swathe of crappy awards for WT.

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

sparrowdown

OnTheWayOut - You make a good case for the cumulative effect personal doubt can have on someones belief sysyem. If I ever chat with a JW now I try and ask questions that will cause them to reflect on their own personal doubts rather than tell them what mine are, which I think is a mistake I made early on in my waking up journey. Thanks for the input.

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Heil Trump. Sieg Heil.

by oppostate in

crowd looking like they're doing the heil hitler salute to trump when he asks for a pledge and swear their support while calling for broadening torture laws.

trump asks backers to swear their support, vows to broaden torture laws.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/05/politics/donald-trump-florida-pledge-torture/.

sparrowdown

How would you know how people really think if people like Trump didn't exist.

A very revealing election this one. There are people that have an opinion that have never had one before.

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To Scully--A Tribute!

by Atlantis in

if you are a new person to the board you might want to send scully a pm thanking her for her hard work and dedication.

the boe project owes her for helping it to get started.. example:.

several years ago there was a website called (dirtclod.com) who had the courage to display the boes right out in front of everybody.

sparrowdown

Yes, thankyou to scully and all those WT justice warriors behind the scenes.

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

sparrowdown

Thank you to all those who took the time to respond. An odd question I know but I thought worth pondering because this is a belief system that people are so hopelessly dependant upon that they are willing to disown family and friends to protect it. Even die for it, or let their loved ones die for it!

I don't think it is my doubts that will wake someone up but their own.

This excersize could help someone begin to see several things (internally, of course they would probably never admit it to your face) such as they themselves are not 100% in.

At the end of the day most if not all JWs are basically suffering from consensus trance not belief.

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

sparrowdown

Is it even possible to be in 100% hand on heart agreement with such a contradictory inconsistent belief sytem?

I now find it ridiculous that that is what the GB expect. Mind control at it's best.

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

sparrowdown

If you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single WT teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?

I know, I definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation. I would have tripped up on questions about blood, DFing and non JWs being marked for destruction just to name a few.

This realization caused me to see how I was just lying to myself about what I believed and wondered how many JWs would show no signs of deception when queried on their faith? I'm not debating the accuracy of polygraphs since they only measure physiological responses which can be caused for all sorts non- deceptive reasons, just generally speaking that's all.

So what does this say about my (then) faith and belief?

It was not real even though I thought it was and was willing to die for it!!

Any thoughts?

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GoFundMe - JW Pioneer & LDC Couple

by Listener in

jerry jones on youtube exposed a jw couple who were begging for money on gofundme.

this is his youtube .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feohxtbml2c.

sparrowdown

Yeah, seems to be a bit of that going around.