just thinking..... assume we had a family doctor that we had seen all our lives, perhaps he had been the doctor for your extended family too.
he is lovely man, very kind and honest hearted.. but if he had prescribed treatment or medication that was wrong, and had bad effects on you, then changed the medication to something else, then randomly changed it again etc, how would you feel?.
if you did some research into him, and found disturbing facts and things in his history that made you question his qualifications, how would you feel?
What about a car mechanic who gets it wrong?
An airline pilot?
Anything with little or no margin for error demands those doing the job have education, qualifications and practical experience.
Not so with WT or the GB because they are a religion and religions are free to make mistakes with impunity.
The "regulator" of religion at the end of the day is an individuals own internal bull shit meter -healthy human skepticism.
All religions are a public gullibility test.
according to the last paragraph of the article entitled "escape from slavery—then and now" (wt#2, 2017).
jehovah god felt grieved by the harsh treatment of israelite slaves in egypt; he must feel the same way about similar injustice today.. .
if you call modern slavery "injustice", wasn't the slavery during moses time also "injustice"?
Sounds a bit like " JWs abhor child abuse."
......shit WT "abhors" but tolerates if Jehovah allowed it and regulated it.
Slavery
Polygomy
Child abuse
Murder
Man/Child sacrifice (Isaac)
Incest
Rape
War
Pillaging
https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/secrets-of-the-watchtower/?utm_source=reveal&utm_medium=dist&utm_campaign=zalkin.
not only will you hear howie tran, former-bethelite, but irwin zalkins talks about watchtower's child abuse secrets.
debbie mcdaniels talks about her child abuse and you will hear trey actually talking to the jw who molested her..
I always suspected they had an apostate literature/letter room now I know they do.
Great interview.
on december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.
i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.
i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?
Credulity.
if you notice I started that comment with "I wonder" which alerts the reader that a hypothetical "thinking outloud" rhetorical question is about to follow. It was posed as a musing rather than a literal question. Not every single copy of COC could or would be "vacuumed up" by WT of course that would be impossible.🙄
the jw org keeps its servants busier than ever these days so that their minds are occupied 24/7.
they ensure that there is no time for anything "worldly" to distract them.. in last week's watchtower article on spiritual health they are putting pressure on the congregation to learn other languages on top of everything else they do.
they allude to the fact that their spiritual health will suffer if they cannot understand the talks and publications in other languages.
Witnesses are taught another "language" the "pure language" or is that the language of pure BS.
I remember every so often they would push the "be useful to Jehovah and learn a language" message.
I think the GB know witnesses in western countries are bored out of their brains from the lack of anything "to do" and bored witnesses start doing things like dating worldly people and parousing the internet.
IOW bored witnesses are more likely to do something that wakes them up.
so here's my thought what should be done to an elder that is accused of molesting a child and there no 2 witnesses ?
1. the elder should immediately step down or be removed.2.
the child should be protected.
First off I would like to say how sorry I am for you, your siblings and your family poopie.
To answer your other question I believe strongly that there is zero moral justification of so-called "clergy confessional privilege" in cases of child abuse.
I also believe the JWs cannot use "clergy privilege" to hide behind simply because they discuss the matter amongst other elders, the Branch, possibly the CO and others so confidentiality has been breached from the getgo.
so here's my thought what should be done to an elder that is accused of molesting a child and there no 2 witnesses ?
1. the elder should immediately step down or be removed.2.
the child should be protected.
The church should
1 REPORT TO POLICE.
2 Immediately suspend all Elder duties including field service.
As Elders cannot physically be with an accused 24/7 all they can do is tell police and support the victim and family by supporting their decision to go to police and the hospital.
so here's my thought what should be done to an elder that is accused of molesting a child and there no 2 witnesses ?
1. the elder should immediately step down or be removed.2.
the child should be protected.
REPORT REPORT REPORT TO THE POLICE!
The victim's parents should go directly to the police and let them haul the accused elder in for questioning.
JWs have no business investigating crimes.
"of course not- we want to eat from clean dishes!
dishes that have been cleaned thoroughly inside and out.
" we have to be sure the things entering our minds are clean... rejecting exciting fun stuff that features sex.
Dish = brain
Wash = indoctrinate
Clean = fully indoctrinated
that's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.
i mentioned it all on my other thread.
i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.
It's the kind of sarcastic concern an abductor would show to their victim who has to crawl back to them because the abductor broke their legs.
