What! Ray Franz was a fraud ??
I don't get it. Was he pretending to be an apostate?
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
What! Ray Franz was a fraud ??
I don't get it. Was he pretending to be an apostate?
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
Well hello the real Richard Oliver. Tellng us how he really feels. Go Richard!
There now, that wasn't so hard was it.
in another thread a poster has been in a pitched fight with others about the results from the arc.
trying to explain away the results and minimizing the damages.
what he has failed to understand is that the society had and still does have certain policies in place that hide the sexual abuse of minors.
Oh no the horror!
Be careful Richard Oliver aka Richard WTlover avert your eyes.
Giodano is "spoonfeeding" all of us here information gasp!
Thanks for that Giordano.
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
Well yaaay congratualtions for WT they're helping to ruin peoples lives "fair and by the rules."
Make a t shirt why don't you.
And, I beg to differ, Sir, on your summary of me.
when i was exiting (clawing my way out) i read a tremendous amount of personal.
accounts on the jw recovery page which sadly closed, .
i would like to offer an opportunity for any who would like, to say a few words on .
Reading a great book on mindfulness at the moment and noticing how WT actually trains people to be mindLESS.
Back into my art again as I gave it up for a while because the loving bros and sis 's would always analyze my work in a way that made me terribly uncomfortable especially the abstract stuff. Art is a "hiding place of demons" - apparently.
Excersizing like a crazy person - and loving it.
Still reading and researching like a crazy person - and loving it.
Watching netflix like a crazy person - and loving it.
Speaking of crazy can feel my mind returning a little more everyday.
Generally much much kinder to myself these days.
And of course the only thing I would add to chocloate is champagne.
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
Just a btw for Richard.
WT are not victims nor are they defenseless. Hate to break it to ya but WT are big boys and they don't need you defending them, sweetie. They are a multi billion dollar org and have very expensive lawyers and a legal department for that.
The chips will fall where the chips will fall for WT and maybe they will continue to get away with their treatment of victims or maybe they won't either way they don't need you going into battle for them. Nor do they even deserve it.
Why not find an actual victim to advocate for there are plenty of them our there.
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
The thing with JW victims is because of their indoctrination they're even less likey to come forward than non jw victims. The mesage to never under any circumstances to bring Jehovah's name or people into disrepute is strong in the minds of all JWs and exJWs and many don't tell who would have told if they had not been threatened as children with bible horror stories of what happens to bad people who speak against Jehovah and his people.
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
RO why don't you save us all alot of futile back and forth and just state clearly your position, for eg you think WT is being unfairly targeted by victims of child abuse.
Then at least we will know which corner you're coming from.
In your case I suspect it's "the stop picking on WT because they are not so bad nor are they to blame for everything that goes wrong within it's own congregations" corner.
Come out of the apologetic closet already.
my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.
she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.
anyone else pick up on this?
If sisters (ugh!) were "allowed" to become Mini Servants (Elder's bitches) their male counterparts would likely feel all threatened and insecure and need a waaambulance (male ego and all ) because let's face it must really suck to be the BOE's bitch you're not an elder yet but not a mere publisher either and competition in the form of busybody sisters and elderettes would not be appreciated I imagine.
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
What is your point - specifically?