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  The Study edition of Luke NWT Now on JW.ORG...great, now they dig even deeper into the pile of muck

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  so had to check it out to see what it's all about.. what i got was more cloudiness.

  as in luke 2:9.... suddenly jehovah’s angel stood before them, and jehovah’s glory gleamed around them, and they became very fearful.

  the notes point out.... jehovah’s angel: this expression occurs many times in the hebrew scriptures, starting at ge 16:7. when it occurs in early copies of the septuagint, the greek word agʹge·los (angel; messenger) is followed by the divine name written in hebrew characters.

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  @Menrov - The wording of the second translation you cited (ECB) is a classic "... and they awe a mega awe." Lol!
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  Sister at Kingdom Hall visibly upset "they took jehovahs name out of song"

  by hoser in

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  i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.

  they took it out.

  i never even noticed .

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  "We thank you our God..."

  Maybe they knew they couldn't get away with "We thank you, our Money, for all you have done"
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  Becoming the average JW (and what I found out about the average 'Joe Witness')

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  until a couple of months ago i was an uber-spiritual pioneer, only having association with other pioneers, elders and others who would fill in the category i classified as "spiritually acceptable" friends.. but since stopping pioneering and having more time to think about my doubts and what i really believe (or better said, what i no longer believe), i have started getting to know other less spiritual brothers and sisters of the area.

  in fact, my old friends are starting to forget me quite quickly, i must say.

  so, i guess my next move in fading is becoming what i call the average witness.. and what did i discover?

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  So much for "uber-spiritual pioneer" dubness being a spiritual "protection" lol.

  To me it seems the more "uber" and "privileged" a witness is the more likely they are to wake up.

  Luke warm apathetic dubs are the worst to try and wake up because they are in the habit of not thinking or caring about whether the religion's teachings are true or not.

  Ironic hey.
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  Do JWs Regard You As An APOSTATE?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i doubt people consider me an apostate but you never know.🤓.

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  Don't know they don't talk to me.

  I am not DFd or DAd just inactive but still they shun.
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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  You heard it here first folks from Brother Richard.

  "It should be a personal decision."

  Of course it should be and that's exactly how I view blood now, the same way I view medication, diet, lifestyle decisions made by me as an individual after I know the relevant info because I am free to research the relevant info and not because the WT and seven wannabe-popes in New York told me that "Jehovah says so."
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  Last Sunday's WT Study re Anxiety

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this article could be seen as a nice read compared with the banality and repetitiveness of many articles in recent years.

  however, several areas in the article still troubled me.

  paragraph one externalises the cause of an individual’s anxiety to satan the devil.

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  Witnesses that believe everything the WT says are doomed to live with the perpetual anxiety that comes from never quite living up to WT's requirements basically because it's impossible to "fulfill the whole law" or get off Jehovah's hamster wheel. WT knows this they're not stupid, it's how successful cults work afterall. Set up an unachievable standard a cult classic.

  So, even their articles on relieving anxiety induce anxiety, not because of the hamster wheel the sheeple find themselves chained to but because the message from WT is "stupid sheeple you can't even manage your anxiety the right way."

  So disempowering! Which btw is also what cults like WT do.
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  The true cost of being raised as a witness

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.

  most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!

  and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.

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  Good points Perry.

  I think all JWs are emotionally unreachable. They have suppressed, repressed, stuffed, bashed over the head and buried in the backyard all their natural, original thoughts and feelings and this makes having a relationship one of

  them dificult at best impossible at worst.

  The first thing I did when waking up was to set out to find me, sounds cliche but when you have been denying your own thoughts and feelings for so long you need to become reaquainted with your true self, where you end and WT begins, what are your thoughts/feelings and what were embeded there by WT.

  Once I did this the "fake" became unbearable to deal with. I could probly "play the game" "stick to the script" when I see JWs but I can't stand pretending anymore just to make them and their deluded brains feel better.
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  Hit by a car evacuating due to oroville dam. Ever been hit?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. social
  2. current

  went back to get info from driver who tapped our car in line of cars exiting the area.

  after getting her info, she waited till i walked back to our car and punched the gas, hitting me.

  then drove off.

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  That's awful Wasanelder! There are some crazy people out there that will use panic-inducing situations to behave appallingly. Hope you're ok.
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  Is it ok if I woohoo! DD? Anyway I just did.
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  In Your Opinion Do Today's Elders Recognize That The Religion Is BS?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i always wondered that while i was in especially when i was an elder.

  i recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead.

  but do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense?

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  Most of the Brother Average elders I would say are indoctrinated deceived deceivers.

  There would be some who know it's BS and there would be others who are in the various stages of doubting, waking up etc.