it has to have happened.
people get stressed out, an elder or overseer takes just two steps over the line and gets a fat lip for his trouble.. does that ever happen?
or maybe someone "counsels" a brother at the wrong time and tempers flare at the old kingdom hall?.
What elders are trained to do is basically stalking if some stranger was doing this you would call the police but if it's an elder it's "christian love, shepherding" that there be some seriously f***ed up reasoning.
Why do otherwise "intelligent" men put themselves in that postion for this damn cult. The cult sure as hell doesn't help them if they get punched in the face, or bitten by a dog, or their kid gets molested by a creep in the cong.
The GB changed the definition of love (to mean "obey obey obey") for their adherents a long time ago.
As dubstepped said, what JWs practice is narcissistic control and co-dependency - not love.
it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.
i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.
they are an extremist group!
I don't feel the current crop of JWs would become "strengthened" by the inconvenience of a ban I think they would find it exciting for a little while but I also think for the majority it would get old fast and they would start to lose interest in the mini-dramas of the WT and just get on with their lives.
The majority of JWs are not die-hards anymore they have a very tenuous grasp on their religions policies, doctrines and meaning. Most would fold under the slightest persistent pressure.
it finally hit me today.
why do religions enjoy shunning.
because many people feel like being close to god makes them special however just being special is not enough for many religious people that shun they must feel extra special how?
Shunning used as official discipline for breaking the rules is what cults do as part of their information control policy to keep people under the thumb.
Deciding personally to not hang out with a certain individual for whatever reason is personal choice.
jerome over on discuss the truth has picked up on something interesting.. in the july watchtower on page 28 of the article entitled “winning the battle for your mind” the following statement is made “keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.
because propaganda is likely to be most effective, says one source, if people… are discouraged from thinking critically.”.
the quote comes from a book entitled: “media and society in the twentieth century: a historical introduction by lyn gorman, david mclean" the watchtower however, chose to leave out a portion of the quote.. the full quote is "therefore, it is likely to be most effective if people do not have access to multiple sources of information and if they are discouraged from thinking critically.. the following sentence which the watchtower also decided was best not to include states,.
I notice our resisdent rep from WT legal dep Brother Richard Oliver is strangely silent.
the study was on how wt has refined itself over the years by ceasing celebrations of christmas etc.. paragraph 11.
11 what a fine example those faithful bible students set for us!
reflecting on their example, we do well to ask ourselves: ‘how do i view the direction we receive from headquarters?
I'd say that frog is just about boiled.
The slow swapping out of following Jesus and the bible to following headquarters and the slave is almost complete. I spose next step is to slowly swap Jehovah for those terms aswell.
jerome over on discuss the truth has picked up on something interesting.. in the july watchtower on page 28 of the article entitled “winning the battle for your mind” the following statement is made “keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.
because propaganda is likely to be most effective, says one source, if people… are discouraged from thinking critically.”.
the quote comes from a book entitled: “media and society in the twentieth century: a historical introduction by lyn gorman, david mclean" the watchtower however, chose to leave out a portion of the quote.. the full quote is "therefore, it is likely to be most effective if people do not have access to multiple sources of information and if they are discouraged from thinking critically.. the following sentence which the watchtower also decided was best not to include states,.
Dubs take things WT says on face value and why wouldn't they, WT proclaims itself as the only honest true religion. It sprinkles just enough little truisms and logical fallacies around like fairy dust to sound as plausible as fake news all the while lying their butts off.
i refer to the thread started by nikl quoting the daily text.
in which the comment said:.
kindness can help you to deal with a conflict of loyalties.. can anyone here (or there), give a verifiable example of when watchtower corporation has ever shown 'kindness' when it wasn't for some selfish gain?.
i refer to the thread started by nikl quoting the daily text.
in which the comment said:.
kindness can help you to deal with a conflict of loyalties.. can anyone here (or there), give a verifiable example of when watchtower corporation has ever shown 'kindness' when it wasn't for some selfish gain?.
lately i have been studying some basic christology and jesus in the old testament and why first christians believed jesus was god in the flesh.
really interesting stuff.
i am not really sure if i fully understand it but i do now realize why pastors go to university and bible school for a number of years and also how their beliefs are not just based on a few verses that can be edited in the nwt.
Religions like WT don't have to make sense to be effective they just need to twist your mind into a pretzel.
Then people argue over the shape of the pretzel. When they have chosen what they think is the true shape of the pretzel they defend and support their precious pretzel.
Religion = madness = power = control = tax exempt free ride.