https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/april-2017-mwb/meeting-schedule-apr10-16/encourage-inactive-christian/.
this is part of the clam meeting this week.. how contradictory is it?.
first, they instruct people to avoid inactive ones and to shun them and to treat them the same as da'd or df'd ones, .
It's called the witness hokey-pokey.
You talk to inactive ones now
you don't talk to inactive ones anymore
you talk to inactive ones again and then you shake it all about
you do the witness hokey -pokey and you turn around
that's what it's all about.
it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.
if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.
followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.
How much of knowledge has come about by tragic "woopsy didn't know that was dangerous" method. I just pity the poor bastards who lived in the periods of time when Drs didn't know shit. Thankyou to all those guinea pig patients and mentally ill people and soldiers and gay people who were subjected to medicinal "torture" in the name of advancing knowledge. Also thankyou to all the lives sacrificed so we could find out smoking wasn't actually good for health or asbestos was not such a great idea or lead was toxic or thalidimide was a total cock up and don't even get me started on the latest thinking carbs no carbs diets etc so on and so forth..... Fact:science gets it wrong sometimes.
Absolute blind faith in anything and everything called science could be classed as an "ism" but I think anything has the potential to become an "ism."
after knowing the ttatt i felt anger of all the lies i was told for years.
then, i did some changes in my life to the better.
i was doubting but felt relieved.
You are essentially leading a split life this will produce inner conflict that's normal. I think we are happiest if there is as little gap between our internal world and our external world as possible. That takes time.
Hang in there slow and steady.
i used to dread seeing a witness coming toward me.
now i am quite comfortable and hope that they may say something to me..... does your blood pressure rise when you see a jw coming toward you?
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The JWdot borg enjoy charity (tax exempt status) because of their "volunteer " work aka cart and door to door palming off their "literacy aids" and website ads, of course WT benefits from this work.
an innocent picture of a city in my country, spain.
the pic says everything.
many jw are really disgusted about everything, even their new preaching cart.
How are you supposed to "approach them " if you cannot find them? The only carts I've come across they stand so far away from the carts you wouldn't know who to approach.
As an ex jw I can peg them by their dress but the general public would have trouble playing spot the witness or "where's wally witness" in a crowd of shoppers.
i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.
is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.
they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.
Deceived deceivers.
an innocent picture of a city in my country, spain.
the pic says everything.
many jw are really disgusted about everything, even their new preaching cart.
I was in different state to where I live recently and there were two carts seemingly "abandoned" at the entrance to the largest mall in the city. I approached to see what would happen. I stood there picking up bits of paper reading bits and pieces of literature and putting it down again, the old couple who had parked themselves under a tree (I can always spot the dubs by their 1980/90s fashion sense a mile off) quite a way off just sat there watching me. I lingered longer testing how long it would take for one of them to get up and give a shit, after about 5 minutes the woman stood up very slowly and just stood there watching me some more and I placed the mags back and walked off she seemed relieved and sat back down.
I clocked it - 6min.
it has to have happened.
people get stressed out, an elder or overseer takes just two steps over the line and gets a fat lip for his trouble.. does that ever happen?
or maybe someone "counsels" a brother at the wrong time and tempers flare at the old kingdom hall?.
What elders are trained to do is basically stalking if some stranger was doing this you would call the police but if it's an elder it's "christian love, shepherding" that there be some seriously f***ed up reasoning.
Why do otherwise "intelligent" men put themselves in that postion for this damn cult. The cult sure as hell doesn't help them if they get punched in the face, or bitten by a dog, or their kid gets molested by a creep in the cong.
The GB changed the definition of love (to mean "obey obey obey") for their adherents a long time ago.
As dubstepped said, what JWs practice is narcissistic control and co-dependency - not love.
it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.
i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.
they are an extremist group!
I don't feel the current crop of JWs would become "strengthened" by the inconvenience of a ban I think they would find it exciting for a little while but I also think for the majority it would get old fast and they would start to lose interest in the mini-dramas of the WT and just get on with their lives.
The majority of JWs are not die-hards anymore they have a very tenuous grasp on their religions policies, doctrines and meaning. Most would fold under the slightest persistent pressure.
